On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:01:23 -0000, peter wrote:

I will be staying in London for 11 days later on in the year

I will be arriving Eurostar (Waterloo). Can anyone advise me how long it
takes to purchase a 7day travel card on Oyster (I assume you have to go
to
the underground booking office, or can a machine issue one)? Also what
paperwork is required, and is it easy later, to add PAYG to the card (can
you just "topup" a card even thought it hasn't previously been used for
PAYG)



It is possible to purchase PAYG oystercards in Sydney but not Travel
cards
on Oyster (the TFL website for visitors will sell 7day travel cards but I
think they are issued as paper travel cards, and no amount of emailing
will
get a response)

The length of time it will take depends only on the length of the queue at
the ticket window. You don't need any paperwork at all. The actual
transaction should take only a few seconds.

Once you have your oyster card you can load it with pre-pay (PAYG) at any
time at a machine. If you are planing on using pre-pay and can purchase a
card at your home then I would advise you to do that. You can add a 7 day
travel card once in London at a machine and avoid the queue at the ticket
window.

HTH

--
Fig

Fig wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:01:23 -0000, peter wrote:

I will be staying in London for 11 days later on in the year

I will be arriving Eurostar (Waterloo). Can anyone advise me how long it
takes to purchase a 7day travel card on Oyster (I assume you have to go
to
the underground booking office, or can a machine issue one)? Also what
paperwork is required, and is it easy later, to add PAYG to the card (can
you just "topup" a card even thought it hasn't previously been used for
PAYG)



It is possible to purchase PAYG oystercards in Sydney but not Travel
cards
on Oyster (the TFL website for visitors will sell 7day travel cards but I
think they are issued as paper travel cards, and no amount of emailing
will
get a response)

The length of time it will take depends only on the length of the queue at
the ticket window. You don't need any paperwork at all. The actual
transaction should take only a few seconds.

Once you have your oyster card you can load it with pre-pay (PAYG) at any
time at a machine. If you are planing on using pre-pay and can purchase a
card at your home then I would advise you to do that. You can add a 7 day
travel card once in London at a machine and avoid the queue at the ticket
window.


Unless the rules have changed, you don't pay the £3 deposit if you get
a period travelcard when first getting the card, so getting the card in
advance would not be such a good option.

MIG wrote:

Fig wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:01:23 -0000, peter wrote:

I will be staying in London for 11 days later on in the year

I will be arriving Eurostar (Waterloo). Can anyone advise me how long it
takes to purchase a 7day travel card on Oyster (I assume you have to go
to
the underground booking office, or can a machine issue one)? Also what
paperwork is required, and is it easy later, to add PAYG to the card (can
you just "topup" a card even thought it hasn't previously been used for
PAYG)



It is possible to purchase PAYG oystercards in Sydney but not Travel
cards
on Oyster (the TFL website for visitors will sell 7day travel cards but I
think they are issued as paper travel cards, and no amount of emailing
will
get a response)

The length of time it will take depends only on the length of the queue at
the ticket window. You don't need any paperwork at all. The actual
transaction should take only a few seconds.

Once you have your oyster card you can load it with pre-pay (PAYG) at any
time at a machine. If you are planing on using pre-pay and can purchase a
card at your home then I would advise you to do that. You can add a 7 day
travel card once in London at a machine and avoid the queue at the ticket
window.


Unless the rules have changed, you don't pay the £3 deposit if you get
a period travelcard when first getting the card, so getting the card in
advance would not be such a good option.

One could argue that paying the £3 deposit is worth it to avoid the
hassle of queueing.

Anyway to elaborate on my epic ramble in my other post on this thread I
see that Australians can only buy an Oyster card pre-loaded with £20
PAYG credit from Visit Britain Direct - however this will cost AUD
55.00 which according to XE currently works out at just under £22 -
given that it includes the £3 deposit (and I think the postage too)
would appear to be a (minor) bargain.

Whether the OP wants £20 of PAYG credit as well is another question.
It would seem that some visitors to London who are being sold an Oyster
card in advance are probably paying over the odds by using Oyster PAYG
for a week's visit when they'd be better off with a 7-day Travelcard.

"Mizter T" wrote in message
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MIG wrote:

Fig wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:01:23 -0000, peter wrote:

I will be staying in London for 11 days later on in the year

I will be arriving Eurostar (Waterloo). Can anyone advise me how long
it
takes to purchase a 7day travel card on Oyster (I assume you have to
go
to
the underground booking office, or can a machine issue one)? Also what
paperwork is required, and is it easy later, to add PAYG to the card
(can
you just "topup" a card even thought it hasn't previously been used
for
PAYG)



It is possible to purchase PAYG oystercards in Sydney but not Travel
cards
on Oyster (the TFL website for visitors will sell 7day travel cards
but I
think they are issued as paper travel cards, and no amount of emailing
will
get a response)

The length of time it will take depends only on the length of the queue
at
the ticket window. You don't need any paperwork at all. The actual
transaction should take only a few seconds.

Once you have your oyster card you can load it with pre-pay (PAYG) at
any
time at a machine. If you are planing on using pre-pay and can purchase
a
card at your home then I would advise you to do that. You can add a 7
day
travel card once in London at a machine and avoid the queue at the
ticket
window.


Unless the rules have changed, you don't pay the £3 deposit if you get
a period travelcard when first getting the card, so getting the card in
advance would not be such a good option.

One could argue that paying the £3 deposit is worth it to avoid the
hassle of queueing.

Anyway to elaborate on my epic ramble in my other post on this thread I
see that Australians can only buy an Oyster card pre-loaded with £20
PAYG credit from Visit Britain Direct - however this will cost AUD
55.00 which according to XE currently works out at just under £22 -
given that it includes the £3 deposit (and I think the postage too)
would appear to be a (minor) bargain.

Whether the OP wants £20 of PAYG credit as well is another question.
It would seem that some visitors to London who are being sold an Oyster
card in advance are probably paying over the odds by using Oyster PAYG
for a week's visit when they'd be better off with a 7-day Travelcard.


Thanks for all the info. Getting a PAYG card with £20 on it, may be the way
to go as you correctly say it will cost me under £22 (yes it does include
postage), and I will be able to avoid the queues. (and no curency exchange
cost as I will pay in AUD) Then at a quiet time, after a couple of days I
could find a machine and add a 7 day travel card to the oyster. Can you
specify the start date from the machine, say tomorrow?

Peter
Sydney

On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:05:26 -0000, peter wrote:

Thanks for all the info. Getting a PAYG card with £20 on it, may be the
way
to go as you correctly say it will cost me under £22 (yes it does include
postage), and I will be able to avoid the queues. (and no curency
exchange
cost as I will pay in AUD) Then at a quiet time, after a couple of days I
could find a machine and add a 7 day travel card to the oyster. Can you
specify the start date from the machine, say tomorrow?

I believe that is possible. It certainly is if you buy from a human so I
can't see why not.
You should also be relieved to know that, in my experience, the LU staff
are very helpfull and are more than willing to guide customers through the
top-up proccess at the ticket machines. There should be plenty of staff
hanging around at the Waterloo underground stations. The machines can seem
a bit confusing to a newbie but step by step instructions appear
on-screen. Make sure you touch your card to the machine reader at the
start AND the end of the transaction and confirm it has been updated.

Enjoy your visit.

--
Fig

On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:40:03 -0000, Fig
wrote in op.tmljk1i7m4iaeb@dell:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:05:26 -0000, peter wrote:

Thanks for all the info. Getting a PAYG card with £20 on it, may be the
way
to go as you correctly say it will cost me under £22 (yes it does include
postage), and I will be able to avoid the queues. (and no curency
exchange
cost as I will pay in AUD) Then at a quiet time, after a couple of days I
could find a machine and add a 7 day travel card to the oyster. Can you
specify the start date from the machine, say tomorrow?

I believe that is possible. It certainly is if you buy from a human so I
can't see why not.
You should also be relieved to know that, in my experience, the LU staff
are very helpfull and are more than willing to guide customers through the
top-up proccess at the ticket machines. There should be plenty of staff
hanging around at the Waterloo underground stations. The machines can seem
a bit confusing to a newbie but step by step instructions appear
on-screen. Make sure you touch your card to the machine reader at the
start AND the end of the transaction and confirm it has been updated.

Note that you can also add stuff (up to monthly Travelcards) to
your Oyster card at many small shops and newsagencies, although the staff
there may not be so knowledgeable as LU ticket-office staff.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tickets/2007/where.asp
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick..._my_ticket.pdf

Enjoy your visit.

Don't forget your "We Won the Ashes!" T-shirts!


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Brunel University. ] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
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Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:40:03 -0000, Fig
wrote in op.tmljk1i7m4iaeb@dell:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:05:26 -0000, peter wrote:

Thanks for all the info. Getting a PAYG card with £20 on it, may be the
way
to go as you correctly say it will cost me under £22 (yes it does include
postage), and I will be able to avoid the queues. (and no curency
exchange
cost as I will pay in AUD) Then at a quiet time, after a couple of days I
could find a machine and add a 7 day travel card to the oyster. Can you
specify the start date from the machine, say tomorrow?

I believe that is possible. It certainly is if you buy from a human so I
can't see why not.
You should also be relieved to know that, in my experience, the LU staff
are very helpfull and are more than willing to guide customers through the
top-up proccess at the ticket machines. There should be plenty of staff
hanging around at the Waterloo underground stations. The machines can seem
a bit confusing to a newbie but step by step instructions appear
on-screen. Make sure you touch your card to the machine reader at the
start AND the end of the transaction and confirm it has been updated.

Note that you can also add stuff (up to monthly Travelcards) to
your Oyster card at many small shops and newsagencies, although the staff
there may not be so knowledgeable as LU ticket-office staff.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tickets/2007/where.asp
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick..._my_ticket.pdf

Enjoy your visit.

Don't forget your "We Won the Ashes!" T-shirts!


When I've used a machine to put a travelcard on, there hasn't been an
option to specify the date, although there is a "renew" option, so
maybe if there is already a seven-day travelcard on there, you could
renew from a machine before it expired without it overlapping.

"Dr Ivan D. Reid" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:40:03 -0000, Fig
wrote in op.tmljk1i7m4iaeb@dell:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:05:26 -0000, peter wrote:

Thanks for all the info. Getting a PAYG card with £20 on it, may be the
way
to go as you correctly say it will cost me under £22 (yes it does
include
postage), and I will be able to avoid the queues. (and no curency
exchange
cost as I will pay in AUD) Then at a quiet time, after a couple of days
I
could find a machine and add a 7 day travel card to the oyster. Can you
specify the start date from the machine, say tomorrow?

I believe that is possible. It certainly is if you buy from a human so I
can't see why not.
You should also be relieved to know that, in my experience, the LU staff
are very helpfull and are more than willing to guide customers through
the
top-up proccess at the ticket machines. There should be plenty of staff
hanging around at the Waterloo underground stations. The machines can
seem
a bit confusing to a newbie but step by step instructions appear
on-screen. Make sure you touch your card to the machine reader at the
start AND the end of the transaction and confirm it has been updated.

Note that you can also add stuff (up to monthly Travelcards) to
your Oyster card at many small shops and newsagencies, although the staff
there may not be so knowledgeable as LU ticket-office staff.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tickets/2007/where.asp
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick..._my_ticket.pdf

Enjoy your visit.

Don't forget your "We Won the Ashes!" T-shirts!

Thanks for all the info. And glad to see you have retained your sense of
humour :-) (I've just finished watching the NZ (210) vs. ENG (120) game

cheers
Peter
Sydney