wrote:

Ah well, there's a surprise. The 3 councils concerned are all
Conservative controlled. Obviously there's been NO co-ordination there,
and NO scaremongering by Conservative politicians scrambling for votes.

Most if not all of the three councils were won on a platform that includes
opposing the tram - this is a case of politicians fulfilling their promises!

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:43:30 -0000, "Tim Roll-Pickering"
wrote:

wrote:

Ah well, there's a surprise. The 3 councils concerned are all
Conservative controlled. Obviously there's been NO co-ordination there,
and NO scaremongering by Conservative politicians scrambling for votes.

Most if not all of the three councils were won on a platform that includes
opposing the tram - this is a case of politicians fulfilling their promises!

Treasure it while it lasts, it'll be a long time till the next one!
:-)

James Farrar wrote:

Most if not all of the three councils were won on a platform that includes
opposing the tram - this is a case of politicians fulfilling their
promises!

Treasure it while it lasts, it'll be a long time till the next one!
:-)

Hammersmith & Fulham Conservatives also pledged to cut Council Tax - and
they did.

http://timrollpickering.blogspot.com...-i-wish-i.html

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:53:20 -0000, "Tim Roll-Pickering"
wrote:

James Farrar wrote:

Most if not all of the three councils were won on a platform that includes
opposing the tram - this is a case of politicians fulfilling their
promises!

Treasure it while it lasts, it'll be a long time till the next one!
:-)

Hammersmith & Fulham Conservatives also pledged to cut Council Tax - and
they did.

And we'll see how that affects their funding from central Government
next time round...

:-)Hammersmith & Fulham Conservatives also pledged to cut Council Tax - and
they did.

Council meets manifesto commitment shocka !

On 24 Jan, 12:14, "Tim Roll-Pickering"
wrote:
The Tram is also unpopular; a survey conducted by Ipsos MORI on behalf of
Transport for London showed a majority of residents opposed the scheme. 53%
do not believe they would derive any benefit at all from the Tram.

So in other words 47% (almost half the people surveyed) believe they
will. That to me sounds a lot higher than for most public transport
schemes. But presumably if you're being so black and white about it ,
if it suddenly changed to 51% you'd be all for it would you?


Cllr Stephen Greenhalgh, Leader of Hammersmith & Fulham Council, said,

"This tram will cause misery for commuters by effectively closing down
Uxbridge Road. It is unpopular with residents and is likely to leave

Umm , am I missing something or isn't the tram FOR commuters? Why would
they all still need to be driving once its built?

Uxbridge Road and Wood Lane. They will be unveiling a banner entitled "West
London Says No".

Should that read "53% of west london say they're not sure".

3. The £315 figure is based on a £1bn estimate for the build cost, this is

Amazing what numbers you can come up with if you pick a few at random
and multiply them. Where exactly is the cost breakdown for this huge
sum please?

Declaration of War Against the West London Tram

Who thought that slogan up , some from ealing college student union?

B2003

On 24 Jan, 15:11, "Boltar" wrote:
Umm , am I missing something or isn't the tram FOR commuters? Why would
they all still need to be driving once its built?

Because maybe they don't want to go exactly where the tram is going?

How exactly will the tram route affect cyclists, by the way?

3. The £315 figure is based on a £1bn estimate for the build cost

The Croydon Tramlink cost a fortune and the Council Tax in
Croydon/Merton/Bromley did not increase by 30% - why do you think it
will now ?

Face facts, the only reason that the 3 Councils oppose it, is because
Labour support it, and Labour Councils proposed it.

wrote:

Face facts, the only reason that the 3 Councils oppose it, is because
Labour support it, and Labour Councils proposed it.

So why does the Labour group on Ealing now oppose it? And admit to being out
of touch on the issue, costing them the last election?

And don't you think the impact on the roads isn't at the forefront of
people's minds in boroughs with a lot of car ownership?

In message . com,
writes

The Croydon Tramlink cost a fortune and the Council Tax in
Croydon/Merton/Bromley did not increase by 30% - why do you think it
will now ?

Perhaps because it will be very hard indeed to attract private capital
for the WLT, given the substantial and continuing losses made by the
Croydon system.

But in any case I don't think that comparisons with Tramlink (which I
very much like) are valid, since much of the permanent way for the
Croydon system was a relatively simple matter of conversion. The WLT is
altogether different, being largely on-street throughout.

Face facts, the only reason that the 3 Councils oppose it, is because
Labour support it, and Labour Councils proposed it.

I think cost-benefit ratios are actually the main worry, even if
polarised in political terms.
--
Paul Terry