On 14 Feb 2007 04:16:23 -0800, "pjcs"
wrote:

Anyone know what's happening - or not happening - at Motspur Park?
There is a speed restriction of what feels like 1mph in both
directions. On Monday they said it was emergency engineering works,
but there's no obvious sign of anyone engineering anything.

Peter CS


There was a sign on the road over the crossing saying it was closed
between 10pm and 6am, so possibly road works. But nothing obvious on
the crossing itself.


Dave

I noticed a piece of Balfour Beatty road/rail plant heading out that
way on the line from the Raynes Park area yesterday morning, I guess
that is probably conencted in some way with this work?

In uk.transport.london message
glegroups.com, Mon, 19 Feb 2007 01:10:02, Old Central
posted:
I noticed a piece of Balfour Beatty road/rail plant heading out that
way on the line from the Raynes Park area yesterday morning, I guess
that is probably conencted in some way with this work?

That might be the piece that was parked in Elm Road, a little north of
the level crossing, at about 12:40 today; about TQ 2075 6850. OTOH
Motspur Park is on a different line from Raynes Park.

Elm Road bridge, just south of there, is closed to road traffic under
(including foot, AFAICS; but the footpath to the north of the main line
is fully usable).

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On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:04:32 +0000, Dr J R Stockton
wrote:



That might be the piece that was parked in Elm Road, a little north of
the level crossing, at about 12:40 today; about TQ 2075 6850. OTOH
Motspur Park is on a different line from Raynes Park.



Motspur Park is the next station after Raynes Raynes on a branch off
the main line.

Dave

Sounds like Balfour Beatty are busy then, hope NR are paying them
handsomely for the service!

Elm Road is on the Kingston Branch past New Malden. Whereas the one I
saw was on the branch to Motspur Park parallel to West Barnes Lane.

OC

In uk.transport.london message ,
Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:56:53, Dave posted:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:04:32 +0000, Dr J R Stockton
wrote:

That might be the piece that was parked in Elm Road, a little north of
the level crossing, at about 12:40 today; about TQ 2075 6850. OTOH
Motspur Park is on a different line from Raynes Park.

Motspur Park is the next station after Raynes Raynes on a branch off
the main line.

My meaning was that, starting from Raynes Park, Motspur Park is not on
the same route as Elm Road. Coming from London by train, one turns left
at RP to get to MP, but one turns right at New Malden (by underpass near
Elm Road) to get to ER, Norbiton, etc. The Elm Road level crossing is,
of course, not main line; but the bridge being worked on supports the
main Waterloo-Southampton line.

Query : there are three holes under the main line near Elm Road level
crossing. One is for Elm Road; one is used by trains from New Malden to
Norbiton. Why the third, parallel to and north of the second?

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In message id, Dr J R
Stockton writes

Query : there are three holes under the main line near Elm Road level
crossing. One is for Elm Road; one is used by trains from New Malden to
Norbiton. Why the third, parallel to and north of the second?

I can't immediately see where you mean. Can you give a location on ...

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl...en,+Greater+Lo
ndon,+United+Kingdom&ie=UTF8&sll=53.098145,-2.443696&sspn=9.308633,20.434
57&z=19&ll=51.402432,-0.264294&spn=0.00118,0.003374&t=k&om=1

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In uk.transport.london message , Wed, 21
Feb 2007 19:26:47, Paul Terry posted:
In message id, Dr J
R Stockton writes

Query : there are three holes under the main line near Elm Road level
crossing. One is for Elm Road; one is used by trains from New Malden to
Norbiton. Why the third, parallel to and north of the second?

I can't immediately see where you mean.

I've misplaced a better answer; but the unused hole is a bit over one
train-width to the north, and a few yards to the east, of the working
one. The ends are easily seen.

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In uk.transport.london message , Wed, 21
Feb 2007 19:26:47, Paul Terry posted:
In message id, Dr J
R Stockton writes

Query : there are three holes under the main line near Elm Road level
crossing. One is for Elm Road; one is used by trains from New Malden to
Norbiton. Why the third, parallel to and north of the second?

I can't immediately see where you mean. Can you give a location on ...

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl...en,+Greater+Lo
ndon,+United+Kingdom&ie=UTF8&sll=53.098145,-2.443696&sspn=9.308633,20.434
57&z=19&ll=51.402432,-0.264294&spn=0.00118,0.003374&t=k&om=1

Recovered by re-boot :


If you walk down Elm Road, it's obvious.

Better to start with one step less of zoom. You can then see the
Norbiton-bound track going under the main line and across the road,
where the crossing is closed. The third hole is parallel to the second,
to the north of it by the width of a train plus the thickness of a wall
plus (presumably) a bit of clearance, and to the east of it by about 40
feet.

On each side of the main line you can see two triangular flat bits of
hole-roof, one with track and one without.

Note that the picture of that part was taken from a bit to the North
(and East) - the new-looking building to the NW of the crossing beside
Holmwood Court, with two sets of chimneys, can be presumed to have a
symmetrical roof. But at New Malden Station, the picture of the west
tower was clearly taken from the South, unlike that of the east tower.

The expected train is nearing the West end of Northcote Road.

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