On 16 Feb, 14:29, Michael Hoffman wrote:
Surely if Rob bought a return to Gatwick Airport at KXTL, they would
have sold him one that was valid.

Yes, but it wouldn't be a London Terminals ticket, which is the point
of this thread.

U

On 16 Feb, 14:29, Michael Hoffman wrote:
wrote:
Rob Hamadi wrote:
What about a ticket, eg KXTL-Gatwick-KXTL, getting off at Farringdon
on the return leg.

A ticket from Gatwick (or anywhere in the south) to London Terminals
only gets you as far as City Thameslink. You'd need a slightly more
expensive ticket to get to KXTL (or Farringdon), to cover the cross
London journey.

Surely if Rob bought a return to Gatwick Airport at KXTL, they would
have sold him one that was valid.


Quite.

However I'm sure I've read a tale of someone being sold a plain
vanilla "London Terminals" ticket from a Southern ticket office
despite specifying they were heading to KXTL - i.e. the ticket office
made a mistake. However the ticket nonetheless got them through the
KXTL gates, seemingly because said gates were (are?) too liberal in
what tickets they accept. One explaination for this was simply that,
given the vast array of valid tickets that could be presented at KXTL,
it's pretty hard to program them exactly.

Of course if a "London Terminals" ticket from the south is wrongly
accepted at KXTL then this can only add to the confusion that
perpetually surrounds this issue!

wrote:
On 16 Feb, 14:29, Michael Hoffman wrote:
Surely if Rob bought a return to Gatwick Airport at KXTL, they would
have sold him one that was valid.

Yes, but it wouldn't be a London Terminals ticket, which is the point
of this thread.

But that's not what the question was about. Threads drift.
--
Michael Hoffman

On 16 Feb 2007 06:47:49 -0800, "John B" wrote:

insane and weird and therefore quite plausible under the Routing Guide

Possibly the best ever description of that document.

On Feb 16, 3:48 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
wrote:
On 16 Feb, 14:29, Michael Hoffman wrote:
Surely if Rob bought a return to Gatwick Airport at KXTL, they would
have sold him one that was valid.

Yes, but it wouldn't be a London Terminals ticket, which is the point
of this thread.

But that's not what the question was about. Threads drift.

Indeed, though I should put my hands up to muddying the waters a
little. The reason I asked was that I clearly recall buying a return
to Gatwick at KXTL and, being a little late upon my return, deciding
to hop off at Farringdon and go straight to the office. When my ticket
failed to open the barrier the chap said that I wasn't really allowed
to detrain at Farringdon, but he'd let me off this once.

This puzzled me at the time, and still does...
--
Rob

In ups.com,
Rob Hamadi typed:

On Feb 16, 3:48 pm, Michael Hoffman wrote:
wrote:

On 16 Feb, 14:29, Michael Hoffman wrote:

Surely if Rob bought a return to Gatwick Airport at KXTL, they
would have sold him one that was valid.

Yes, but it wouldn't be a London Terminals ticket, which is the
point of this thread.

But that's not what the question was about. Threads drift.

Indeed, though I should put my hands up to muddying the waters a
little. The reason I asked was that I clearly recall buying a return
to Gatwick at KXTL and, being a little late upon my return, deciding
to hop off at Farringdon and go straight to the office. When my ticket
failed to open the barrier the chap said that I wasn't really allowed
to detrain at Farringdon, but he'd let me off this once.

This puzzled me at the time, and still does...

The simple truth is that the chap was mistaken.



--
Bob

On 16 Feb 2007 07:35:12 -0800, Mizter T wrote:

Surely if Rob bought a return to Gatwick Airport at KXTL, they would
have sold him one that was valid.

Quite.

However I'm sure I've read a tale of someone being sold a plain
vanilla "London Terminals" ticket from a Southern ticket office
despite specifying they were heading to KXTL - i.e. the ticket office
made a mistake.

IIRC the issue was to do with ticket machines (though it may be a
problem with ticket offices too). There are specific fares to KXTL
from many stations in the Southern area (routed "Not Underground" or
"FCC Only"), at slightly higher fares than those to London Terminals.

However, when you buy one of these from certain types of ticket
machine, the ticket gets printed incorrectly; they print the correct
price and route, but "London Terminals" as the destination.

Of course if a "London Terminals" ticket from the south is wrongly
accepted at KXTL then this can only add to the confusion that
perpetually surrounds this issue!

....and this is probably why the problem hasn't been properly
identified/corrected yet. (Although it may have been corrected by
now.)