"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
...
As to the story of evacuating the Royal Family in an emergency there are
two
runways in Central London capable of taking an aircraft of the Queens
Flight
assuming the latter still exists.

Why waste time driving to one of these spots which would need some
preparation when a helicopter based in your back garden can get you further
away in the same time?
32 (The Royal) Squadron is based at Northolt with BAe 146's and HS125
bizjets while the Royal Household have their own Sikorsky S76 helicopter to
get them around.
Where did I learn that? The Royal Website!
http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/page2836.asp

Nick P



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On Feb 21, 5:20 pm, Graeme Wall wrote:
In message
"Brian Watson" wrote:

A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace and
various other London sites.

Nifty conspiracy theory, or fact?

There are certainly tunnels connecting a large number of sites in Central
London but none of the maps I have access to show them connecting to Buck
House. Some of them are PO (now BT) cable tunnels and others connect the
various government 'citadels' under the various ministry buildings. However
to the best of my knowledge non are equipped with rails.

The usual source of these stories is that someone has heard of these tunnels
and also of the Post Office railway and put 2 and 2 together and made 5.

As to the story of evacuating the Royal Family in an emergency there are two
runways in Central London capable of taking an aircraft of the Queens Floght
assuming the latter still exists.

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

What's the other one out of interest? Though wouldn't landing a couple
of helicopters on the lawns of Buck House be just as effective?

Neill

On Feb 21, 7:39 pm, "Mizter T" wrote:
On 21 Feb, 18:22, "Bill Again" wrote:





"Christopher A.Lee" wrote in message

.. .

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:20:51 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:

In message
"Brian Watson" wrote:

A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just
claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace and
various other London sites.

Nifty conspiracy theory, or fact?

There are certainly tunnels connecting a large number of sites in Central
London but none of the maps I have access to show them connecting to Buck
House. Some of them are PO (now BT) cable tunnels and others connect the
various government 'citadels' under the various ministry buildings.
However
to the best of my knowledge non are equipped with rails.

The usual source of these stories is that someone has heard of these
tunnels
and also of the Post Office railway and put 2 and 2 together and made 5.

The Victoria Line passes under Buck House. I have heard stories of
there being an access for mergencies.

Having been around when the Victoria line was being built I remember the
discussions in the Press of the time. The story was that the direct route
under Buck House was turned down and the line actually makes a big (and
expensive) curve around it. Phil is alleged to have said, " I'm not having
their bloody trains run under my house, thank you!"

Bill

Ha! A quite believable story.

However I wonder whether it is true. If you take a look at the
Victoria line's route as marked on the central London bus map then it
is shown as passing under the Buck House garden but not the building
itself - this makes sense as the line needs to turn so as to be
aligned to run southeast from Victoria station towards Pimlico and
Vauxhall.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/buses/pdfdocs/centlond.pdf



I think the alignments in the bus maps bear little relation to the
geography. They are just showing that an Underground line links the
places. Look how they've drawn the Bakerloo, which we know exactly
follows all the kinks of Haymarket and Regent Street.

I've got no opinion on where the Victoria line goes though.

In message .com, MIG
writes
Look how they've drawn the Bakerloo, which we know exactly
follows all the kinks of Haymarket and Regent Street.

I've got no opinion on where the Victoria line goes though.
I remember this item when the Victoria line was being built. It was
said that to compensate all the home owners for subsidence if anything
happened was so great that the roads were followed and houses were not
run under, but when the Vic. Line was built such was the cost that the
situation had reversed and it was cheaper to pay a subsidence bill than
follow street plans.
--
Clive.

"MIG" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 21, 7:39 pm, "Mizter T" wrote:
On 21 Feb, 18:22, "Bill Again" wrote:





"Christopher A.Lee" wrote in message

.. .

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:20:51 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:

In message
"Brian Watson" wrote:

A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just
claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace
and
various other London sites.

Nifty conspiracy theory, or fact?

There are certainly tunnels connecting a large number of sites in
Central
London but none of the maps I have access to show them connecting to
Buck
House. Some of them are PO (now BT) cable tunnels and others connect
the
various government 'citadels' under the various ministry buildings.
However
to the best of my knowledge non are equipped with rails.

The usual source of these stories is that someone has heard of these
tunnels
and also of the Post Office railway and put 2 and 2 together and made
5.

The Victoria Line passes under Buck House. I have heard stories of
there being an access for mergencies.

Having been around when the Victoria line was being built I remember
the
discussions in the Press of the time. The story was that the direct
route
under Buck House was turned down and the line actually makes a big (and
expensive) curve around it. Phil is alleged to have said, " I'm not
having
their bloody trains run under my house, thank you!"

Bill

Ha! A quite believable story.

However I wonder whether it is true. If you take a look at the
Victoria line's route as marked on the central London bus map then it
is shown as passing under the Buck House garden but not the building
itself - this makes sense as the line needs to turn so as to be
aligned to run southeast from Victoria station towards Pimlico and
Vauxhall.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/buses/pdfdocs/centlond.pdf



I think the alignments in the bus maps bear little relation to the
geography. They are just showing that an Underground line links the
places. Look how they've drawn the Bakerloo, which we know exactly
follows all the kinks of Haymarket and Regent Street.

I've got no opinion on where the Victoria line goes though.


That's interesting. I took a look at the bus map and was surprised to see
the Vic line shown as passing to the west of Buck house. As I recall it, the
maps of the time showed it passing to the east of the palace. It only
managed to do this by taking a big curve (to the east). Had it not done so
it would have passed more or less under Buck house.

Okay, so this is definitely anecdotal. There were a flurry of maps in the
press at the time it was under discussion, it was one of those that I saw,
and there was no guarantee that it was in any way correct.

Bill

On 21 Feb, 19:39, "Mizter T" wrote:
On 21 Feb, 18:22, "Bill Again" wrote:

"Christopher A.Lee" wrote in message
.. .

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:20:51 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:

(snip)

As to the story of evacuating the Royal Family in an emergency there are
two
runways in Central London capable of taking an aircraft of the Queens
Floght
assuming the latter still exists.

The Broad Walk in Kensington Gardens is the obvious one.

I wonder if that's one of the two that Christopher has in mind -
perhaps he might share his thoughts with us...


I should of course have addressed that question towards Graeme, not
Christopher, as it was he who posed the notion that there are two
central London runways already.

On 21 Feb, 20:11, "Neill" wrote:
On Feb 21, 5:20 pm, Graeme Wall wrote:



In message
"Brian Watson" wrote:

A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace and
various other London sites.

Nifty conspiracy theory, or fact?

There are certainly tunnels connecting a large number of sites in Central
London but none of the maps I have access to show them connecting to Buck
House. Some of them are PO (now BT) cable tunnels and others connect the
various government 'citadels' under the various ministry buildings. However
to the best of my knowledge non are equipped with rails.

The usual source of these stories is that someone has heard of these tunnels
and also of the Post Office railway and put 2 and 2 together and made 5.

As to the story of evacuating the Royal Family in an emergency there are two
runways in Central London capable of taking an aircraft of the Queens Floght
assuming the latter still exists.

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

What's the other one out of interest? Though wouldn't landing a couple
of helicopters on the lawns of Buck House be just as effective?

Neill


Dare I suggest that your sensible and boring helicopter plan doesn't
properly take account of peoples desire for intrigue and high drama?

MIG wrote:
I think the alignments in the bus maps bear little relation to the
geography. They are just showing that an Underground line links the
places. Look how they've drawn the Bakerloo, which we know exactly
follows all the kinks of Haymarket and Regent Street.

There's no reason for any street map to show accurately the route of
tube lines between stations, and I don't expect the engineering drawings
are available to the public. We need someone to take a tube ride with an
inertial mapping system.

Am Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:20:30 UTC, schrieb "Brian Watson"
auf uk.railway :

A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace and
various other London sites

Maybe he was thinking of the old post office Mail Rail system and
its VIP car...


Yours,
L.W.

BIG SNIP


What's the other one out of interest? Though wouldn't landing a couple
of helicopters on the lawns of Buck House be just as effective?

Neill


Dare I suggest that your sensible and boring helicopter plan doesn't
properly take account of peoples desire for intrigue and high drama?


Dear NG browsers,

I admit to watching some of the Hollywood action or even docu-drama type
films on TV from time to time. One recent one, had a flight of three twin
turbined helicopter being sent to Balmoral to evacuate Brenda & family from
a large ice storm heading her way, when the choppers fuel lines froze, so
the storyline would have us believe.

However, surely more than one helicopter would be designated for such an
emergency measure, would all 3 land at the same time inside Buck House
grounds, or would any of the local military barracks parade squares be
pressed into immediate service for such a venture?

John Locke.