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In message , at 11:49:20 on Fri,
23 Feb 2007, Andrew Clark remarked: Indeed. It will have been closed for normal traffic for some time. Which is why it's easily available for various (not just Royal Family) special operations. But in any sort of mass attack, the Tubes are going to be paralysed by (a) general panic; (b) absenteeism of key workers; (c) breakdown of supporting infrastructure (communications, signalling, electricity) consequent on the foregoing. Assuming that the network will be lying empty but functional seems very naive. It only needs to be functioning enough to handle one battery loco and a carriage. No signals required. -- Roland Perry |
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![]() "Roland Perry" wrote It only needs to be functioning enough to handle one battery loco and a carriage. No signals required. I always thought the Tube was electrically operated? And what happened to the abandoned rolling stock? Evaporated? |
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Andrew Clark wrote: "Roland Perry" wrote It only needs to be functioning enough to handle one battery loco and a carriage. No signals required. I always thought the Tube was electrically operated? but batteries are simply a storage medium for electrity -- From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey" Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11 |
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![]() "charles" wrote but batteries are simply a storage medium for electrity Doh! |
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In message , at 19:14:27 on Fri,
23 Feb 2007, Andrew Clark remarked: It only needs to be functioning enough to handle one battery loco and a carriage. No signals required. I always thought the Tube was electrically operated? Last time I looked a battery loco carried its own electricity. And what happened to the abandoned rolling stock? Evaporated? In the depot. The first thing you'd have done is cleared the running tracks. -- Roland Perry |
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![]() "Roland Perry" wrote In the depot. The first thing you'd have done is cleared the running tracks. Without traction power? And who would clear the rolling stock, precisely? The Royal Household? |
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In message , Andrew Clark
writes Without traction power? And who would clear the rolling stock, precisely? The Royal Household? It used to be a sackable offence to leave any train standing on a line BR or LT, so unless rules have changed, all trains will have a driver on board and the depot is most likely to be where their car is to get home. -- Clive. |
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![]() "Clive Coleman." wrote It used to be a sackable offence to leave any train standing on a line BR or LT, so unless rules have changed, all trains will have a driver on board and the depot is most likely to be where their car is to get home. But an electric train stranded out the line with no power is not going to go anywhere, whatever the signals say. Peter |
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![]() "Peter Masson" wrote in message ... "Clive Coleman." wrote It used to be a sackable offence to leave any train standing on a line BR or LT, so unless rules have changed, all trains will have a driver on board and the depot is most likely to be where their car is to get home. But an electric train stranded out the line with no power is not going to go anywhere, whatever the signals say. Peter And quite probably because there is no traction supply there will be no supply for the signals either. Also most underground lines also rely on compressed air to operate the trainstops and point machines. All these supplies come from substations dotted along the line. No supply in = no supply out. Most if not all stations now have a UPS back up system to supply lighting CCTV and PA systems for about 1 hour. After that runs down, complete and utter blackness. Bruce |
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In message , Peter Masson
writes But an electric train stranded out the line with no power is not going to go anywhere, whatever the signals say. Why should it have no power? If all the electrical staff deserted, as long as they didn't throw any switches, juice would still be on throughout the network. -- Clive. |
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