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Trains have keys? Where do they fit - in the side of the steering
column?

Yes trains at least did have keys and I would expect still do. I have
a set of keys for 38/62 stock, for the old 800s and 63xxs and also a key
for unlocking the desk on Brush, EE, and Crompton locomotives. I don't
know but I have no reason to suspect the use of keys to have changed.
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Trains have keys? Where do they fit - in the side of the steering
column?


Yes trains at least did have keys and I would expect still do. I have
a set of keys for 38/62 stock, for the old 800s and 63xxs and also a
key for unlocking the desk on Brush, EE, and Crompton locomotives. I
don't know but I have no reason to suspect the use of keys to have
changed.


LUL trains have a key to open up the controller or reverser. Known as
an RKL220 key as that's the number on the key. It's also part of the
safety procedures as you shut down your train and hand over your RKL220
key to provide protection to staff on the track.

73 stock (at least) also have a Control Key (which looks something like
a spanner) to open up the cab.
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Feb 2007, Steve Fitzgerald ] remarked:
LUL trains have a key to open up the controller or reverser. Known as
an RKL220 key as that's the number on the key. It's also part of the
safety procedures as you shut down your train and hand over your RKL220
key to provide protection to staff on the track.

73 stock (at least) also have a Control Key (which looks something like
a spanner) to open up the cab.


Sounds plausible, and perhaps this one key works all the trains? Now,
the topic that got us started here was the possibility of having to move
a train that was blocking the line, and that this would be impossible
without the right key [1]. It seems fairly obvious that the crew
piloting the escape train would have been given a set of keys for just
this eventuality.

[1] I have always said that such trains were unlikely to be found, but
someone else started this particular rathole.
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In message , Roland Perry
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Trains have keys? Where do they fit - in the side of the steering
column?

Yes trains at least did have keys and I would expect still do. I have
a set of keys for 38/62 stock, for the old 800s and 63xxs and also a key
for unlocking the desk on Brush, EE, and Crompton locomotives. I don't
know but I have no reason to suspect the use of keys to have changed.


Many years ago, a friend from BBC TV OBs went on holiday to Egypt. He saw
an OB van from Egyptian TV which looked remarkably like the ones he worked
in. He tried the door key (still on his key ring) and found that the "Unit
to BBC spec" even included the locks!

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In article ,
Clive Coleman. wrote:
In message , Roland Perry
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Trains have keys? Where do they fit - in the side of the steering
column?

Yes trains at least did have keys and I would expect still do. I have
a set of keys for 38/62 stock, for the old 800s and 63xxs and also a key
for unlocking the desk on Brush, EE, and Crompton locomotives. I don't
know but I have no reason to suspect the use of keys to have changed.


Many years ago, a friend from BBC TV OBs went on holiday to Egypt. He saw
an OB van from Egyptian TV which looked remarkably like the ones he worked
in. He tried the door key (still on his key ring) and found that the "Unit
to BBC spec" even included the locks!


Possibly an ex BBC Unit. His key would also have fitted ITV OB units.

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Possibly an ex BBC Unit.


No, it was new Pye one.

His key would also have fitted ITV OB units.


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Possibly an ex BBC Unit.


No, it was new Pye one.


The days when we had a domestic television industry sigh


His key would also have fitted ITV OB units.



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In article ,
Clive Coleman. wrote:
In message , Roland Perry
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Trains have keys? Where do they fit - in the side of the steering
column?

Yes trains at least did have keys and I would expect still do. I have
a set of keys for 38/62 stock, for the old 800s and 63xxs and also a key
for unlocking the desk on Brush, EE, and Crompton locomotives. I don't
know but I have no reason to suspect the use of keys to have changed.


Many years ago, a friend from BBC TV OBs went on holiday to Egypt. He saw
an OB van from Egyptian TV which looked remarkably like the ones he worked
in. He tried the door key (still on his key ring) and found that the "Unit
to BBC spec" even included the locks!


The key designation was TXxx. I still have one somewhere.


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