If I take my Oyster PP out and get on a tube from say Z4 to Zone2 or 1even
then get on a bus followed by returning from the Z1 to Z4 how much will i be
deducted for what is 3 serperate journeys in total?

Thanks - Bit new to all this

In ,
Frank Incense typed:

If I take my Oyster PP out and get on a tube from say Z4 to Zone2 or
1even then get on a bus followed by returning from the Z1 to Z4 how
much will i be deducted for what is 3 serperate journeys in total?

Thanks - Bit new to all this

If relying on Pre-Pay, an Oystercard will never become a Travelcard.
What it does is to cap the day's spending at 50p less than the
appropriate Travelcard for the journeys made. It can never become a
Travelcard because it can never be used on most National Rail services.

The answer to your question about how much you would be charged for each
of the three journeys is confused by the fact that you did not say on
what day and at what time you would be making the journeys - and also
by the fact that the peak/off-peak OysterPP tube fare hours do not
coincide with the hours for peak/off-peak Travelcards (although I don't
think that these three journeys would reach the capping limit at
whatever time you made them).

There are two things that you need to remember. Firstly OysterPP will
always be capped 50p cheaper than the corresponding Travelcard - but
secondly, OysterPP is not valid on most National Rail services; so if
your journey includes National Rail it will be cheaper to get a
Travelcard.




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Bob

In message of Thu, 8 Mar 2007
15:49:28 in uk.transport.london, Frank Incense
writes
If I take my Oyster PP out and get on a tube from say Z4 to Zone2 or 1even
then get on a bus followed by returning from the Z1 to Z4 how much will i be
deducted for what is 3 serperate journeys in total?

Thanks - Bit new to all this

The question suggests you are confused. Welcome to the club.

Let us assume your first journey of the day is after 09.30 and before
19.00 Monday to Friday and you pay an adult fare.
Your first journey in Zones 1-4 costs 2.50. The cap is 5.20. The bus
costs 1.00 and your return journey costs 1.70. The total cost is 5.20
and capping applies. Subsequent journeys in that day would be free.

I you bought a Zones 1-4 Off-Peak Travelcard, it would cost 5.70.

I get a New Deal rate as I have been unemployed for more than 6 months
and I am more than 50. My New Deal card had lapsed by yesterday. My Zone
1 Off-Peak fare was 1.50. I renewed my New Deal entitlement for a
further 13 weeks and my next Zone 1 fare was 0.70. The cap is 2.30 and
the next fare was 0.10. I was impressed! Most of the relevant
information is available in a pamphlet called "YOUR guide to fares and
tickets" which seems also to be at
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick...es-languages/e
nglish-large-print-fares-tickets-guide-Nov06.pdf
Can anyone tell where "New Deal" itself is documented? DWP is quite
opaque about it.
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Walter Briscoe

On Mar 8, 4:19 pm, "Bob Wood" wrote:
There are two things that you need to remember. Firstly OysterPP will
always be capped 50p cheaper than the corresponding Travelcard - but
secondly, OysterPP is not valid on most National Rail services; so if
your journey includes National Rail it will be cheaper to get a
Travelcard.

No, if your journey includes NR it may or may not be cheaper to get a
Travelcard depending on whether PAYG is valid on that particular
route. See he

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/fares-tick...YG-Diagram.pdf

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John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

Walter Briscoe wrote:

Can anyone tell where "New Deal" itself is documented? DWP is quite
opaque about it.

I remember reading once that the sorts of New Deal benefits you got were
decided on a case-by-case basis by Jobcentre Plus, so not everyone is
entitled to, say, a New Deal Railcard.
--
Michael Hoffman

Bob Wood ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

If relying on Pre-Pay, an Oystercard will never become a Travelcard.
What it does is to cap the day's spending at 50p less than the
appropriate Travelcard for the journeys made. It can never become a
Travelcard because it can never be used on most National Rail services.

An ODTC without the ability to be used on NR used to be called an LT card
and cost a chunk less than an ODTC...

In message , Bob Wood
writes

If relying on Pre-Pay, an Oystercard will never become a Travelcard.

[...]

It can never become a Travelcard because it can never be used on most
National Rail services.

Be cautious when saying "never"

In a few years, when Oyster is rolled-out across the NR network in
London, I suspect that it could do so - although perhaps the capping
arrangements will have changed by then.

(I suspect that you were using "never" in a rather more short-term sense
than the word implies).
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Paul Terry