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"D7666" wrote:

On Apr 3, 2:11 am, "MaxB" wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...I know the SR had a plan in the 70's to have 13 PSB's for the whole
region can anyone shed some light, plan did not happen as such.


I don't know if it was ever finished, but London Bridge, Victoria (Clapham
Jn) and Ashford were all part of it.


I agree it certainly started but was not finished.

The Central Division (mainly) boxes LB, VA, Three Bridges were
certainly three of them - but I think that was it.

I am not so sure Ashford was one - maybe if so it would have been much
extended. ISTR Ashford was older, resignalled under Kent Coast Phase
II, and like Eastleigh and Basingstoke and other 1960s boxes pre-dated
the 13 box scheme, and replaced by a new one/s or the equipment/s
supplanted. Then what went into Ashford was - by the time it was done
- was no longer part of the 13 box scheme.

I was under the impression that Basingstoke was one of the 13, hence the
elimination of the Southampton boxes about 1980.

sneaky plug

For a touch of LSWR/SR nostalgia my Southampton signal box pages are at
http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/sigbox/sigbox.htm

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

On Apr 3, 8:20 am, Graeme Wall wrote:

I was under the impression that Basingstoke was one of the 13, hence the
elimination of the Southampton boxes about 1980.


Southampton went under Eastleigh in c.1981 not under Basingstoke.

I think there was maybe one to be located at Basingstoke or Eastleigh
but also I think in neither case would it have been the 1966/1967 box
directly - but a replacement or considerably expanded facility.

--
Nick

On Apr 3, 10:47 am, "D7666" wrote:

On Apr 3, 8:20 am, Graeme Wall wrote:

I was under the impression that Basingstoke was one of the 13, hence the
elimination of the Southampton boxes about 1980.

Southampton went under Eastleigh in c.1981 not under Basingstoke.



Although since posting that I see you refer to Southampton to
Eastleigh on your web pages - but I can't quite see where ''...
Basingstoke was one of the 13, hence the
elimination of the Southampton boxes ...'' comes in to play.


--
Nick

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"D7666" wrote:

On Apr 3, 10:47 am, "D7666" wrote:

On Apr 3, 8:20 am, Graeme Wall wrote:

I was under the impression that Basingstoke was one of the 13, hence the
elimination of the Southampton boxes about 1980.

Southampton went under Eastleigh in c.1981 not under Basingstoke.



Although since posting that I see you refer to Southampton to
Eastleigh on your web pages - but I can't quite see where ''...
Basingstoke was one of the 13, hence the
elimination of the Southampton boxes ...'' comes in to play.


'Cos the brain is in neutral today :-) I meant Eastleigh, it just came out
as Basingstoke...

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

There's an excellent film called "The First of the 13" about the
Dartford resignalling (made by someone who worked on it) on the
'Terminus' DVD:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Terminus/dp/B00081MX60

Didn't mention what the other 12 were to be..but here's a guess:

Waterloo
London Bridge
Victoria
Feltham
Woking
Ashford
Three Bridges
Portsmouth
Eastleigh

+ 3 others.

On Apr 3, 5:08 pm, Mad Mac wrote:

Didn't mention what the other 12 were to be..but here's a guess:

Waterloo
London Bridge
Victoria
Feltham
Woking
Ashford
Three Bridges
Portsmouth
Eastleigh

+ 3 others.

It must be something like that list.

Perhaps Basingstoke and Gillingham were two of the missing three ??



--
Nick

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"D7666" wrote:

On Apr 3, 8:20 am, Graeme Wall wrote:

I was under the impression that Basingstoke was one of the 13, hence the
elimination of the Southampton boxes about 1980.


Southampton went under Eastleigh in c.1981 not under Basingstoke.

Doh! I meant Eastleigh, sorry, I was thinking about the coming works at
Basingstoke and it stuck in my mind.


I think there was maybe one to be located at Basingstoke or Eastleigh
but also I think in neither case would it have been the 1966/1967 box
directly - but a replacement or considerably expanded facility.


I'm pretty certain Eastleigh was one of the '13'.

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
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"D7666" wrote:

On Apr 3, 8:20 am, Graeme Wall wrote:

I was under the impression that Basingstoke was one of the 13, hence
the
elimination of the Southampton boxes about 1980.


Southampton went under Eastleigh in c.1981 not under Basingstoke.

Doh! I meant Eastleigh, sorry, I was thinking about the coming works at
Basingstoke and it stuck in my mind.


I think there was maybe one to be located at Basingstoke or Eastleigh
but also I think in neither case would it have been the 1966/1967 box
directly - but a replacement or considerably expanded facility.


I'm pretty certain Eastleigh was one of the '13'.

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

I have the 'Yellow Peril' for that in the loft does that make me sad

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"D7666" wrote:

On Apr 3, 8:20 am, Graeme Wall wrote:

I was under the impression that Basingstoke was one of the 13, hence
the
elimination of the Southampton boxes about 1980.


Southampton went under Eastleigh in c.1981 not under Basingstoke.

Doh! I meant Eastleigh, sorry, I was thinking about the coming works at
Basingstoke and it stuck in my mind.


I think there was maybe one to be located at Basingstoke or Eastleigh
but also I think in neither case would it have been the 1966/1967 box
directly - but a replacement or considerably expanded facility.


I'm pretty certain Eastleigh was one of the '13'.

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

I have the 'Yellow Peril' for that in the loft does that make me sad



Very, just like the rest of us :-)

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

Graeme Wall wrote:
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"D7666" wrote:

On Apr 3, 2:11 am, "MaxB" wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...I know the SR had a plan in the 70's to have 13 PSB's for the whole
region can anyone shed some light, plan did not happen as such.
I don't know if it was ever finished, but London Bridge, Victoria (Clapham
Jn) and Ashford were all part of it.

I agree it certainly started but was not finished.

The Central Division (mainly) boxes LB, VA, Three Bridges were
certainly three of them - but I think that was it.

I am not so sure Ashford was one - maybe if so it would have been much
extended. ISTR Ashford was older, resignalled under Kent Coast Phase
II, and like Eastleigh and Basingstoke and other 1960s boxes pre-dated
the 13 box scheme, and replaced by a new one/s or the equipment/s
supplanted. Then what went into Ashford was - by the time it was done
- was no longer part of the 13 box scheme.

I was under the impression that Basingstoke was one of the 13, hence the
elimination of the Southampton boxes about 1980.

sneaky plug

For a touch of LSWR/SR nostalgia my Southampton signal box pages are at
http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/sigbox/sigbox.htm


Interesting site. Hope you don't mind my linking to it from the relevant
pages of my website?

http://www.conceptcrafts.co.uk/britishrailways1960