John B wrote:
On 11 Apr, 15:48, asdf wrote:
If you have a registered Oyster card with no period Travelcard loaded
but with a positive PAYG balance, make a PAYG journey, and /later in
the same day/ buy a period Travelcard on that Oyster card, starting
that day, and covering the zones included in your initial PAYG
journey, will the PAYG journey be refunded?
No
In the days before Oystercards would you have expected to have travelled
in the morning and then had your fare refunded in the afternoon if you
bought a season ticket?
In the days before Oystercards, would you have expected to pay for a
single journey, later that day decide to make 10 more journeys, and
just pay the ODTC price (or less) for the lot?

Quite. Given that Bob's response seems to be based on 'pre-Oyster
common-sense' (if you will), I'd like to reiterate my question "does
anyone actually KNOW this to be the case or otherwise?".

I'm pretty sure it's not the case in my experience... For some reason,
the gates NEVER EVER tell me my season ticket is about to expire, so I
often find later in the day that I have paid for the morning's journey
using the bit of pre-pay I have on the card*. If I then renew the season
ticket, it doesn't give me anything back for the morning's journey.



* Which is why I try to keep as small as possible an amount on the card
now. It's annoying and I don't know why I never get an "about to expire"
message on the gates. I just try to remember to put a reminder in my
phone for when it runs out when I buy a new one now.

On Apr 12, 8:34 am, Dave Newt wrote:
John B wrote:
On 11 Apr, 15:48, asdf wrote:
If you have a registered Oyster card with no period Travelcard loaded
but with a positive PAYG balance, make a PAYG journey, and /later in
the same day/ buy a period Travelcard on that Oyster card, starting
that day, and covering the zones included in your initial PAYG
journey, will the PAYG journey be refunded?
No
In the days before Oystercards would you have expected to have travelled
in the morning and then had your fare refunded in the afternoon if you
bought a season ticket?
In the days before Oystercards, would you have expected to pay for a
single journey, later that day decide to make 10 more journeys, and
just pay the ODTC price (or less) for the lot?

Quite. Given that Bob's response seems to be based on 'pre-Oyster
common-sense' (if you will), I'd like to reiterate my question "does
anyone actually KNOW this to be the case or otherwise?".

I'm pretty sure it's not the case in my experience... For some reason,
the gates NEVER EVER tell me my season ticket is about to expire, so I
often find later in the day that I have paid for the morning's journey
using the bit of pre-pay I have on the card*. If I then renew the season
ticket, it doesn't give me anything back for the morning's journey.

* Which is why I try to keep as small as possible an amount on the card
now. It's annoying and I don't know why I never get an "about to expire"
message on the gates. I just try to remember to put a reminder in my
phone for when it runs out when I buy a new one now



If you have a weekly, you get the warning almost immediately, and tend
to ignore it anyway.

Dave Newt wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's not the case in my experience... For some reason,
the gates NEVER EVER tell me my season ticket is about to expire, so I
often find later in the day that I have paid for the morning's journey
using the bit of pre-pay I have on the card*. If I then renew the
season ticket, it doesn't give me anything back for the morning's
journey.
* Which is why I try to keep as small as possible an amount on the
card now. It's annoying and I don't know why I never get an "about to
expire" message on the gates. I just try to remember to put a
reminder in my phone for when it runs out when I buy a new one now.

Could it be that the pre-pay money (i.e. validity) is the reason you don't
get the warning? The logic (if this is the case) presumably being that the
card as a whole is not going to expire, so you will still be able to travel.

(Guessing. Another issue for someone who *knows* ;-)

Kieran Turner wrote:
Dave Newt wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's not the case in my experience... For some reason,
the gates NEVER EVER tell me my season ticket is about to expire, so I
often find later in the day that I have paid for the morning's journey
using the bit of pre-pay I have on the card*. If I then renew the
season ticket, it doesn't give me anything back for the morning's
journey.
* Which is why I try to keep as small as possible an amount on the
card now. It's annoying and I don't know why I never get an "about to
expire" message on the gates. I just try to remember to put a
reminder in my phone for when it runs out when I buy a new one now.

Could it be that the pre-pay money (i.e. validity) is the reason you don't
get the warning?

That's what I've assumed, but I've mentioned it on here before and
people seemed to think that THEIR Oyster (with season plus PAYG) DID
show the message and so maybe I had just not noticed it (or used the
type of gates that don't do it).

However, I do wonder whether it might be something related to the card
itself, as I was a fairly early adopter and must have one of the first
few (public) batches of cards. Maybe it's a bug fixed in later ones. I'm
still guessing, mind you.


The logic (if this is the case) presumably being that the
card as a whole is not going to expire, so you will still be able to travel.

(Guessing. Another issue for someone who *knows* ;-)


Me too!