In article ,
(Neil Williams) wrote:

On Sun, 20 May 2007 16:05 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

Given that there are shops in the station entrance way, closing the
ticket office without arranging for one of them to sell tickets is
a serious anti-customer action.

Wouldn't it be preferable that the money saved was used on more
beneficial things relating to the service, rather than on staffing a
ticket office that isn't really necessary? (There's no reason why
the
ticket machines should not be able to sell everything, and if they
don't perhaps the money could be spent on replacing them). If you
keep the staff, they're a lot more use walking round helping people
than behind a glass screen.

Who looks after the ticket machines? Frequently at least one isn't
working when I pass. How does one buy child tickets?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article . 145,
(David Jackman) wrote:

"Richard J." wrote in news:eOY3i.22463
:

The scenario you originally raised was "how can I put an
arbitrary (small) amount on my Oyster if I don't have change", in
the event of the ticket office at East Putney being permanently
closed. We've established that there's a ticket stop just across
the road. If that's so awfully inconvenient for you, you should
make sure you always have change on you, or think ahead and top
up during the arrival leg of your journey, or save time and
hassle by topping up less frequently with larger amounts. It's
not rocket science.

Or bite the bullet, give TfL your credit card details and go for
auto top-up...

And have them take *far* more money than I want onto my Oyster. I only
use Oyster every few months. I don't live in London and cycle when I can.

Anyway, my main reason for small amount ticket office top-ups is to get
receipts for my Oyster usage. The few times I use the tube nowadays is
usually on expenses. Machines won't take the amount I want unless I take
care to have the change.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article ,
(Neil Williams) wrote:

On Sun, 20 May 2007 14:47 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(John Rowland) wrote:

There are no shops on my way from my mother's to the station.
How can I put an arbitrary (small) amount on my Oyster if I
don't have change?

They don't want you to put an arbitrary small amount on.

So I'll cycle then.

Probably a good choice. It's not as if TfL are short of customers,
and it'll be better for you as well!

That said, why don't you just put a tenner or 20 quid on and use it
as you need to? It's not as if (so far as I know) the credit expires.
That's what I do, and 20 quid usually lasts me the best part of 6
months because I normally use outboundary Travelcards when
travelling to/in London.

See my other post. £20 could be a year's usage and that way I don't get a
usable receipt.

And if I have the family, how do I buy a child ticket for my daughter?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 20 May 2007 15:30:57 -0700, MIG
wrote:

On May 20, 4:44 pm, James Farrar wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 14:47 +0100 (BST), (Colin

Rosenstiel) wrote:
In article ,
(John Rowland) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

There are no shops on my way from my mother's to the station. How
can I put an arbitrary (small) amount on my Oyster if I don't have
change?

They don't want you to put an arbitrary small amount on.

So I'll cycle then.

Fine, if it stops your continual whining here.



If only something would stop the smugness of the apologists for TfL.

First they came for the people who live in South London ...

... and when they come for you, there will be no one left to speak out.

It figures that the other great utl anti-Oyster whiner would reply
with a meaningless attempted comeback.

On May 21, 1:32 am, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
In article ,



(Neil Williams) wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 16:05 +0100 (BST), (Colin
Rosenstiel) wrote:

Given that there are shops in the station entrance way, closing the
ticket office without arranging for one of them to sell tickets is
a serious anti-customer action.

Wouldn't it be preferable that the money saved was used on more
beneficial things relating to the service, rather than on staffing a
ticket office that isn't really necessary? (There's no reason why
the
ticket machines should not be able to sell everything, and if they
don't perhaps the money could be spent on replacing them). If you
keep the staff, they're a lot more use walking round helping people
than behind a glass screen.

Who looks after the ticket machines? Frequently at least one isn't
working when I pass. How does one buy child tickets?

--
Colin Rosenstiel


They are most proabably being serviced as in floated, emptied or
having more tickets put in. This is done from behind. ou can often
hear the clunking.

All the ticketing equipment and ticket gates on LU, Buses, Trams and
DLR are operated by TransSys a consortium including Cubic and EDS.
They maintain the assets in accordance with their contracts and repair
ay defects that cant or shouldnt be done by LU staff.

Child tickets can only be bought from the window. I understand that
Child Tickets are changing to do withthe Free Oyster card being
accepted, but dont know too much about this.

In article .com,
(chunky munky) wrote:

Child tickets can only be bought from the window. I understand that
Child Tickets are changing to do withthe Free Oyster card being
accepted, but dont know too much about this.

So how will tickets be obtained for children who need them without ticket
offices?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 21 May, 03:13, James Farrar wrote:
It figures that the other great utl anti-Oyster whiner would reply
with a meaningless attempted comeback.

I don't think many people have an objection per-se. Its more the
forcing it on everyone and charging people who don't/can't use it
through the nose for no good reason other than because they can. I've
still yet to hear a good reason from Comrade Livingstone as to why
he's shafting occasional public transport users or tourists who end up
paying 4 quid to go one stop since having to buy an oyster card before
you visit the capital is neither obvious nor convenient and frankly I
think its just a stealth tax on tourists.

B2003

On May 21, 3:13 am, James Farrar wrote:
On 20 May 2007 15:30:57 -0700, MIG
wrote:





On May 20, 4:44 pm, James Farrar wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 14:47 +0100 (BST), (Colin

Rosenstiel) wrote:
In article ,
(John Rowland) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

There are no shops on my way from my mother's to the station. How
can I put an arbitrary (small) amount on my Oyster if I don't have
change?

They don't want you to put an arbitrary small amount on.

So I'll cycle then.

Fine, if it stops your continual whining here.

If only something would stop the smugness of the apologists for TfL.

First they came for the people who live in South London ...

... and when they come for you, there will be no one left to speak out.

It figures that the other great utl anti-Oyster whiner would reply
with a meaningless attempted comeback.-


Does it occur to you that the reason why people repeatedly point out
that there are problems is that there really are problems?

So you are all right Jack. I am happy for you.

On 21 May, 15:35, Boltar wrote:
On 21 May, 03:13, James Farrar wrote:

It figures that the other great utl anti-Oyster whiner would reply
with a meaningless attempted comeback.

I don't think many people have an objection per-se. Its more the
forcing it on everyone and charging people who don't/can't use it
through the nose for no good reason other than because they can. I've
still yet to hear a good reason from Comrade Livingstone as to why
he's shafting occasional public transport users or tourists who end up
paying 4 quid to go one stop since having to buy an oyster card before
you visit the capital is neither obvious nor convenient and frankly I
think its just a stealth tax on tourists.

I think it's more an attempt at deterrence - i.e. making it so
expensive for people who live in London to not switch over that they
all overcome their inertia and move over to the new system. The
squeezing-the-tourists bit is merely an accident...

....but in any case, we pay c£250 a year each on our council tax
(assuming average househould is 2 people) to fund the Mayor's office,
with transport being its most important role. London's economy
subsidises the country as a whole.

So it seems positively *good* to make people who haven't contributed
to any of this, and who also can't be bothered to find out the most
cost-effective and simplest ways of getting around the city they're
visiting (it's not like Oyster cards are only on sale if you can prove
you were born within the Bow Bells), pay a little bit more than the
rest of us.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

On Fri, 18 May 2007 21:44:24 GMT, Mojo wrote:

Get used to either using the ticket machines or visiting the local
newsagent if you want to travel......

Taken from: http://www.workersliberty.org/node/8463

snip

What happens if you want a new Oyster Card, will there be Oyster
Dispensers here like those seen elsewhere?

What if you want a ticket the machines can't produce (eg: Priv/Staff 75%
discount)?

IMO these closures should not go ahead until the touch-screen ticket
machines have been modified to sell (at least while the office is
closed) PAYG Oyster cards, Railcard-discounted ODTCs (and, at West
Ruislip and South Ruislip, Railcard-discounted NR singles and
returns), and to allow the user to put an arbitrary amount of cash
onto an Oyster card without having it in exact change. (Anything else
to be added to this list?)

Also, when buying a Travelcard season on Oyster starting on the day of
purchase, any PAYG journeys made that day (within the relevant zones)
should be refunded. This would allow passengers to make a journey
using PAYG from an unstaffed station to a staffed station and buy
their season at the destination.