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On Jun 2, 12:09 pm, contrex wrote:
On 1 Jun, 18:10, chunky munky wrote:

Sarah Siddons will formerly be given back to LU on Sunday 10 June.


I often see "formally" when people mean "formerly" but this is the
first time I've seen the opposite error.




Oh yeah... Whooops!!!!!

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On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:28:33 +0100, Barry Salter
wrote:

Adrian wrote:

What HAS happened to "Steam on the Met"?

Have I just missed it the last few years, or has it slunk off?


Steam on the Met was last held in May 2000, being suspended after that
in preparation for the introduction of the PPP.

Having said that, LU's Safety Case (not currently available on the TfL
website, as it's being superseded) *did* allow for the operation of
"heritage" main line and underground stock and, indeed, the Traffic
Circular mentions a 10kph (sic) speed limit for steam locos over a
bridge near Wembley Park.


Steam on the Met (or any other line) was not suspended for PPP reasons.
Sure there was a huge debate about it but it was decided to reserve the
right to run heritage trains on the LU network. The main reason given
about a reluctance to run *steam* trains was the fact that the smoke and
ash caused complaints from the public, and trackside fires that
disrupted services and resulted in the fire brigade being called out.
That's certainly what I recall from the debates we had about it and the
policy papers that were put forward.
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:28:33 +0100, Barry Salter
wrote:

Adrian wrote:

What HAS happened to "Steam on the Met"?

Have I just missed it the last few years, or has it slunk off?


Steam on the Met was last held in May 2000, being suspended after that
in preparation for the introduction of the PPP.

Having said that, LU's Safety Case (not currently available on the TfL
website, as it's being superseded) *did* allow for the operation of
"heritage" main line and underground stock and, indeed, the Traffic
Circular mentions a 10kph (sic) speed limit for steam locos over a
bridge near Wembley Park.


Steam on the Met (or any other line) was not suspended for PPP reasons.
Sure there was a huge debate about it but it was decided to reserve the
right to run heritage trains on the LU network. The main reason given
about a reluctance to run *steam* trains was the fact that the smoke and
ash caused complaints from the public, and trackside fires that
disrupted services and resulted in the fire brigade being called out.
That's certainly what I recall from the debates we had about it and the
policy papers that were put forward.
--
Paul C



Never had the "Leaves on the line" problem when steam was around!

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Paul Corfield wrote:

Steam on the Met (or any other line) was not suspended for PPP reasons.


Well that was what was being said on the last day of Steam on the Met
2000. Along the lines of, "It was being suspended due to the massive
internal reorganisation at LU in preparation for PPP." (or words to that
effect, anyway).

Cheers,

Barry
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Well Andy Barr, who helped organise it for many years has said to the
LURS that, in effect, the "new world" means it will *never* return.



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On Jun 1, 3:11 pm, StuartJ wrote:
She passed Northwood southbound on the fast line about 15:00 today, at
the rear of some of the "steam on the Met" Mk1s. Anyone know what was
going on, and what (if anything) was at the front? And weren't all the
Mk1s sold off?

StuartJ


Was in Neasden Depot at about 3.45 today (Tuesday)

Kevin



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