On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:27:28 -0700, Oliver Beattie
wrote:

Hey Everyone,

Having just been issued a £20 Penalty Fare demand from DLR officials,
I wondered if anyone could let me know whether the The British Rail
(Penalty Fares) Act 1989 applies here? If not, if you could possibly
point me to what act does apply?

Many Thanks!
Oliver Beattie


its on the TFl web site.

On Jun 14, 1:15 am, Martyn Dawe wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:27:28 -0700, Oliver Beattie

wrote:
Hey Everyone,

Having just been issued a £20 Penalty Fare demand from DLR officials,
I wondered if anyone could let me know whether the The British Rail
(Penalty Fares) Act 1989 applies here? If not, if you could possibly
point me to what act does apply?

Many Thanks!
Oliver Beattie

its on the TFl web site.

http://ourcommunity.dlr.co.uk/pdf/co...f_carriage.pdf

"6.6. Using a season ticket on your Oyster card
6.6.1. When you use Docklands Light Railway, London Underground and
National Rail
services, you must touch your Oyster card on the card reader at both
the start and the end
of your journey. If the ticket gates at stations are open you must
still touch your Oyster card
on the card reader."

On Jun 14, 8:53 am, Offramp wrote:
On Jun 14, 1:15 am, Martyn Dawe wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:27:28 -0700, Oliver Beattie

wrote:
Hey Everyone,

Having just been issued a £20 Penalty Fare demand from DLR officials,
I wondered if anyone could let me know whether the The British Rail
(Penalty Fares) Act 1989 applies here? If not, if you could possibly
point me to what act does apply?

Many Thanks!
Oliver Beattie

its on the TFl web site.

http://ourcommunity.dlr.co.uk/pdf/co...f_carriage.pdf

"6.6. Using a season ticket on your Oyster card
6.6.1. When you use Docklands Light Railway, London Underground and
National Rail
services, you must touch your Oyster card on the card reader at both
the start and the end
of your journey. If the ticket gates at stations are open you must
still touch your Oyster card
on the card reader."



The paragraph quoted is nonsensical, since it refers in general to
touching at the start and end of the journey where there might be no
Oyster reader "when you use Docklands Light Railway, London
Underground and National Rail".

There is also a following paragraph about presenting your Oyster card
for inspection at stations where there is no reader.

This doesn't really cover the situation where your ticket is inspected
while you are travelling, and no one can tell whether or not you are
travelling to or from a gated station.

In practice, I have never had any problem presenting a travelcard
valid where I currently am, regardless of any previous touching.

On 14 Jun, 23:01, MIG wrote:
On Jun 14, 8:53 am, Offramp wrote:



On Jun 14, 1:15 am, Martyn Dawe wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:27:28 -0700, Oliver Beattie

wrote:
Hey Everyone,

Having just been issued a £20 Penalty Fare demand from DLR officials,
I wondered if anyone could let me know whether the The British Rail
(Penalty Fares) Act 1989 applies here? If not, if you could possibly
point me to what act does apply?

Many Thanks!
Oliver Beattie

its on the TFl web site.

http://ourcommunity.dlr.co.uk/pdf/co...f_carriage.pdf

"6.6. Using a season ticket on your Oyster card
6.6.1. When you use Docklands Light Railway, London Underground and
National Rail
services, you must touch your Oyster card on the card reader at both
the start and the end
of your journey. If the ticket gates at stations are open you must
still touch your Oyster card
on the card reader."

The paragraph quoted is nonsensical, since it refers in general to
touching at the start and end of the journey where there might be no
Oyster reader "when you use Docklands Light Railway, London
Underground and National Rail".

There is also a following paragraph about presenting your Oyster card
for inspection at stations where there is no reader.

This doesn't really cover the situation where your ticket is inspected
while you are travelling, and no one can tell whether or not you are
travelling to or from a gated station.

In practice, I have never had any problem presenting a travelcard
valid where I currently am, regardless of any previous touching.

I thought that touching in/out was only required for Oyster Pay and Go
and for ANY Oyster card at gated stations.
I never touch in and out on DLR or Bendybuses. I am sure that's why
people think fare evasion is so high on them.