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On Jun 14, 4:34 pm, Christopher A.Lee wrote:

One wonders why the motorman didn't notice there was no signal at that
end of the platform.


You'd think he might have noticed something like that. What did he
do , see there was no signal at all and just thought "ooh , that must
mean green"? What a dick. I hope he's fired just like any bus or truck
driver would be if they drove the wrong way down a main road though
I'm sure Bob Crowe will crawl out from under his rock at some point
and try and blame LU or Metronet for it.

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On Jun 14, 4:34 pm, Christopher A.Lee wrote:

One wonders why the motorman didn't notice there was no signal at that
end of the platform.


You'd think he might have noticed something like that. What did he
do , see there was no signal at all and just thought "ooh , that must
mean green"? What a dick. I hope he's fired just like any bus or truck
driver would be if they drove the wrong way down a main road though
I'm sure Bob Crowe will crawl out from under his rock at some point
and try and blame LU or Metronet for it.

Probably an ASLEF member.


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One wonders why the motorman didn't notice there was no signal at that
end of the platform.

You'd think he might have noticed something like that. What did he
do , see there was no signal at all and just thought "ooh , that must
mean green"?


Um, no signal *does* mean green. Unlit signal - not the same thing -
means red.

Having said that, I can't offhand think of any LU station that doesn't
have a starting signal at the end of the platform.

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On Jun 14, 6:52 pm, Boltar wrote:
On Jun 14, 4:34 pm, Christopher A.Lee wrote:



One wonders why the motorman didn't notice there was no signal at that
end of the platform.


You'd think he might have noticed something like that. What did he
do , see there was no signal at all and just thought "ooh , that must
mean green"? What a dick. I hope he's fired just like any bus or truck
driver would be if they drove the wrong way down a main road though
I'm sure Bob Crowe will crawl out from under his rock at some point
and try and blame LU or Metronet for it.

B2003


Something doesn't ring true here. I am an occassional user of Camden
but I think that even I would know which platform I was on and if I
was about set off in the wrong direction. Some how a driver gets out
of a train in the Edgware platform but then gets in the back of a
train in the HB platform and drives off SB. Wouldn't he have noticed
something odd about the directions he took on foot. We are not talking
a non underground savvy tourist here.

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Walter Mann wrote:
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1(9) Accidents or incidents which could have lead to deaths or serious
injuries or 2m euros worth of damage to trains, infrastructure or
environment, but did not do so. If in doubt notify.

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I find it difficult to think of any incident which wouldn't fall into such a
category


Hints and allegations?

I'll be singing that all day now...


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On Jun 14, 5:32 pm, Ben wrote:
Walter Mann wrote:
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1(9) Accidents or incidents which could have lead to deaths or serious
injuries or 2m euros worth of damage to trains, infrastructure or
environment, but did not do so. If in doubt notify.


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I find it difficult to think of any incident which wouldn't fall into such a
category


Hints and allegations?

I'll be singing that all day now...


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In article ,
Ben wrote:
Walter Mann wrote:
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1(9) Accidents or incidents which could have lead to deaths or serious
injuries or 2m euros worth of damage to trains, infrastructure or
environment, but did not do so. If in doubt notify.

========

I find it difficult to think of any incident which wouldn't fall into such a
category


Hints and allegations?

I'll be singing that all day now...


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Nick Leverton wrote:

1(9) Accidents or incidents

Hints and allegations?


Watch out for that boy ... no, the one in the bubble over there ...


But have you noticed the way the camera follows you in slo-mo?
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On 14 Jun, 13:34, "Paul Scott" wrote:
What might have happened here then



'London Underground insisted that such incidents, while worrying to
the public, were "incredibly rare." '

Nice to know that LU apparantly sees no reason to feel worried itself.
I'm not convinced that the driver of the stationery northbound train
would be entirely indifferent to the unexpected approach of a train
proceeding towards him from the north. Filling his pants would perhaps
be a more likely scenario. Have there not also been "incredibly rare"
cases of trains "running away" in the "wrong" direction unchecked
because trainstop devices are set up on the premise that if trains are
going to do something naughty they'll always have the courtesy to do
it whilst proceeding forwards in the correct direction of travel?

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On Jun 14, 11:17 pm, " wrote:
Have there not also been "incredibly rare"
cases of trains "running away" in the "wrong" direction unchecked
because trainstop devices are set up on the premise that if trains are
going to do something naughty they'll always have the courtesy to do
it whilst proceeding forwards in the correct direction of travel?


Which is why all trains are being installed (or possibly have been by
now, not sure) with rollback protection devices that will apply the
emergency brakes if they roll backwards too far. Doesn't help if it's
being driven from the wrong end, mind.

U



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