On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:13:45 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

Several of the ex-CT lines get "no mention" - the press releases are
almost exclusively about "better things", and they avoid the "business
as usual" lines. But they did say the Nottingham-Liverpools will be
upgraded to four cars, which either means a permanent change at
Nottingham onto the (once through-service) Norwich trains; or will they
join and split a 2+2?

The last time I heard about the plan was that it'd be 2 cars to
Nottingham, then join another 2 from there to Liverpool. The two cars
removed from an incoming service from Liverpool would be shoved out of
the way somewhere then put on the next arrival from Norwich going back
to Liverpool, thus saving a unit diagram or two on the quiet part of
the route.

This wasn't a Stagecoach proposal - I believe the DfT thought it up in
conjunction with CT.

Neil

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On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:13:45 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

Several of the ex-CT lines get "no mention" - the press releases are
almost exclusively about "better things", and they avoid the "business
as usual" lines. But they did say the Nottingham-Liverpools will be
upgraded to four cars, which either means a permanent change at
Nottingham onto the (once through-service) Norwich trains; or will they
join and split a 2+2?

The last time I heard about the plan was that it'd be 2 cars to
Nottingham, then join another 2 from there to Liverpool. The two cars
removed from an incoming service from Liverpool would be shoved out of
the way somewhere then put on the next arrival from Norwich going back
to Liverpool, thus saving a unit diagram or two on the quiet part of
the route.

This wasn't a Stagecoach proposal - I believe the DfT thought it up in
conjunction with CT.


Isn't this already happening to some extent, hence the ex-TPE units on CT?
So many developments on the railways these days are announced as something
new on several occasions, that I have lost track completely of what is new
and what is spin.

Stagecoach even seems to be taking credit for East Midlands Parkway,
although, yes, it will be the first TOC to use the station. Sad for MML
that, as it was their idea all those years ago.

David

In message , at 15:31:26 on
Sun, 24 Jun 2007, David Thornhill remarked:
Stagecoach even seems to be taking credit for East Midlands Parkway,
although, yes, it will be the first TOC to use the station. Sad for MML
that, as it was their idea all those years ago.

As they haven't started building it yet, I'm not especially pro-MML as a
driving force to get that station going. And with only 2tph advertised
by Stagecoach, a bit of a white elephant in practice, I fear.
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Roland Perry

In message , at 15:19:42 on Sun,
24 Jun 2007, Neil Williams remarked:
Several of the ex-CT lines get "no mention" - the press releases are
almost exclusively about "better things", and they avoid the "business
as usual" lines. But they did say the Nottingham-Liverpools will be
upgraded to four cars, which either means a permanent change at
Nottingham onto the (once through-service) Norwich trains; or will they
join and split a 2+2?

The last time I heard about the plan was that it'd be 2 cars to
Nottingham, then join another 2 from there to Liverpool. The two cars
removed from an incoming service from Liverpool would be shoved out of
the way somewhere then put on the next arrival from Norwich going back
to Liverpool, thus saving a unit diagram or two on the quiet part of
the route.

This wasn't a Stagecoach proposal - I believe the DfT thought it up in
conjunction with CT.

Yes, that was one proposed scheme I'm sure, but doesn't quite tally with
other reports of the transfer of ex-TPX 158's specifically for the
Nottingham-Liverpool route (ironic that it was TPX who lost the rights
to have the service transferred to them!)
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Roland Perry