I've had four months on the North London Line and now happily I'm moving
to an office on more traditional tube routes.

I won't miss the NLL, and the constant overcrowding and sharing my
travel space with bikes, kitchen units and other assorted haulage :-)

It could be a great line and lets hope the new people taking over from
DrossLink spend a few bob on it.

Personally I hope never to set foot on the 8:08 out of Highbury to
Richmond again.


--
Edward Cowling "Must Go - The Wild Geese Are Calling"

On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:07:40 +0100, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:


I've had four months on the North London Line and now happily I'm moving
to an office on more traditional tube routes.

I won't miss the NLL, and the constant overcrowding and sharing my
travel space with bikes, kitchen units and other assorted haulage :-)

It could be a great line and lets hope the new people taking over from
DrossLink spend a few bob on it.

Personally I hope never to set foot on the 8:08 out of Highbury to
Richmond again.


More traditional tube routes?

Same service but nothing to look at out of the windows!




Dave

In message , Dave
writes
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:07:40 +0100, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:


I've had four months on the North London Line and now happily I'm moving
to an office on more traditional tube routes.

I won't miss the NLL, and the constant overcrowding and sharing my
travel space with bikes, kitchen units and other assorted haulage :-)

It could be a great line and lets hope the new people taking over from
DrossLink spend a few bob on it.

Personally I hope never to set foot on the 8:08 out of Highbury to
Richmond again.


More traditional tube routes?

Same service but nothing to look at out of the windows!

There is an Angelina Jolie look alike I will miss a bit :-)

The funny thing is that when you travel on lines that are used at less
than the 175% capacity the NLL is used at you think it's strange. Why
aren't people scrunching into every gap ? The hesitancy with which
Victoria line passengers play sardines is positively anti social ;-)


--
Edward Cowling "Must Go - The Wild Geese Are Calling"

On Jun 22, 6:07 pm, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:
I've had four months on the North London Line and now happily I'm moving
to an office on more traditional tube routes.

I won't miss the NLL,

I haven't used it much... But I would have done if it was a Tube line
and ran, like the Hammersmith & City Line, about every 10 minutes.

I always thought it weird that it ran from the arsehole of East London
to Kew.

In message .com,
Offramp writes
On Jun 22, 6:07 pm, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote:
I've had four months on the North London Line and now happily I'm moving
to an office on more traditional tube routes.

I won't miss the NLL,

I haven't used it much... But I would have done if it was a Tube line
and ran, like the Hammersmith & City Line, about every 10 minutes.

I always thought it weird that it ran from the arsehole of East London
to Kew.

In the 80's it was affectionately known as the hair lip and club foot
line. It seemed to have it's own constant waist high brown fog and
rather disturbing stains on the seats.

Now it's a far better service, but unbelievably packed out. Cern don't
need to fiddle about with Higgs Boson, pretty soon a coach on the NLL
will get so packed it will attain singularity :-)


--
Edward Cowling "Must Go - The Wild Geese Are Calling"

Offramp wrote:

I always thought it weird that it ran from the arsehole of East London
to Kew.

I still think it's weird that it heads in a straight line towards Heathrow,
but then veers away to some forgotten Surrey suburb without providing any
interchange with any lines that actually go to Heathrow.

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007, John Rowland wrote:

Offramp wrote:

I always thought it weird that it ran from the arsehole of East London
to Kew.

I still think it's weird that it heads in a straight line towards
Heathrow, but then veers away to some forgotten Surrey suburb without
providing any interchange with any lines that actually go to Heathrow.

Given that the line predates the airport, it's surely not strictly weird.
Annoying, yes.

So what could be done? The idea of a NLL - GWML - Central interchange
where the lines cross near Gypsy Corner has been mentioned here before. I
can't see it getting built except as part of a huge redevelopment of the
industrial estates into flats, though.

The Poplar curve links the NLL to the GWML just east of Acton Main Line;
with about a mile of electrification, it would be possible to actually
send trains from Willesden (from the NLL, but not Watford, sadly) to
Heathrow, although it would involve rather a lot of conflicting movements
with existing traffic on the line. Alternatively, some tracks and land
from the Acton goods yard could quite easily be used to provide a
segregated connection from the NLL to the Central line tracks that go to
Ealing Broadway, where people could change to Heathrow Connect. There's
room to build more roads for the goods trains; the Central's 12 peak tph
to Ealing Broadway should leave room for some NLL trains too. The only
losers would be all the people wanting to go towards Richmond rather than
Ealing.

Simplest of all, how about getting off at South Acton and walking less
than half a mile to Acton Town to get the Piccadilly? Again, there's a
great crossing of lines round here that would enable a useful interchange
to be built, and there's even some industrial land you could build it on
without knocking anyone's house down.

tom

--
All we need now is Jesus the Lord, fine corn liquor and the courage to
think the unthinkable.

How about moving Chiswick Park to where the North London Line crosses
the Piccadilly and District platforms, and biulding platforms for all
three of them? I suppose it'd be quite expensive, but that way a
single line could be kept, and interchange between the three lines
could be provided quite easily. there's quite a bit of space on the
sout-western side of the tracks for a station building according to
Google Earth.

"sweek" wrote in message
ups.com...
How about moving Chiswick Park to where the North London Line crosses
the Piccadilly and District platforms, and biulding platforms for all
three of them? I suppose it'd be quite expensive, but that way a
single line could be kept, and interchange between the three lines
could be provided quite easily. there's quite a bit of space on the
sout-western side of the tracks for a station building according to
Google Earth.


I haven't lloked at GE but I suspect the land you're referring to is the old
Chiswick Works. Oh, and close Gunnersbury?

"Edward Cowling London UK" wrote in message
...

I've had four months on the North London Line and now happily I'm moving
to an office on more traditional tube routes.

I won't miss the NLL, and the constant overcrowding and sharing my travel
space with bikes, kitchen units and other assorted haulage :-)

It could be a great line and lets hope the new people taking over from
DrossLink spend a few bob on it.

Personally I hope never to set foot on the 8:08 out of Highbury to
Richmond again.


--
Edward Cowling "Must Go - The Wild Geese Are Calling"



Sounds like how a railway should be used. The (rhetorical) question is why
don't the *powers that be* don't provide stock better suited to the task.