On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Mr Thant wrote:

On Jul 9, 6:53 pm, Tom Anderson wrote:

Slightly tricky when some stations and lines have trains to multiple
termini. Shouldn't be impossible, though, and would definitely be useful.

Have you seen the Overground Network map:
http://web.archive.org/web/200601250...etwork-map.pdf

I have; i quite like that one, i have to say. It's more than just a
recolouring of the London Connections map, though, and i think i'm right
in saying that for the low-frequency lines, it doesn't indicate
destination (Epsom Downs, for instance - does that join the green line
that goes to Victoria, or the one that goes to West Croydon?); i guess
that since these lines are loew-frequency anyway, they don't matter so
much.

Now, who wants to have a go at photoshopping the Lon Con map to include
this scheme?

Oh, hang on, i'm forgetting something:

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/system...LC_May_x05.pdf

NR's own version of London Connections, which shows lines coloured by
operator. It's ugly as sin, but it does almost do the job. You just need
to split the Southern and Southeastern lines, and the orbital lines from
their related radials.

There's also this classic Southern map that uses a similar concept:
http://www.virtualportmeirion.com/network/largemap.htm

Ooh, i think i've seen that one before, but a long time ago. Yes, that
really is good, in a rather overcomplicated way.

Maybe the solution to the Gordian map problem is just to simplify the
service patterns!

tom

--
Human judgement is not something to be trusted in a life-or-death
situation -- Ben Jefferys

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On Jul 9, 6:53 pm, Tom Anderson wrote:
Slightly tricky when some stations and lines have trains to multiple
termini. Shouldn't be impossible, though, and would definitely be useful.

Have you seen the Overground Network map:
http://web.archive.org/web/200601250...etwork-map.pdf

(the ON website was taken down a few months ago. I presume the signage
can't be far behind)

I thought it looked a bit stale when I saw it a few months ago, but I see
www.overgroundnetwork.com now redirects to TfL's homepage. I was wondering
what would happen to the platform signs, because they are basically quite
useful, in a similar format to LU line maps. I guess they could remain with
some sort of minor rebranding, but to what? I believe South London Metro has
already been tried...

I wonder if http://www.overground.co.uk is a cybersquatter?

There's also this classic Southern map that uses a similar concept:
http://www.virtualportmeirion.com/network/largemap.htm

That shows quite well how little the network has really changed - I guess
the blue line to Holborn Viaduct from Sevenoaks sould be dusted off again
for Thameslink - I think its one of the intended routes?

Paul

Paul Scott wrote:
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(the ON website was taken down a few months ago. I presume the
signage can't be far behind)

I thought it looked a bit stale when I saw it a few months ago, but
I see www.overgroundnetwork.com now redirects to TfL's homepage. I was
wondering what would happen to the platform signs, because they
are basically quite useful, in a similar format to LU line maps. I
guess they could remain with some sort of minor rebranding, but to
what? I believe South London Metro has already been tried...

I wonder if http://www.overground.co.uk is a cybersquatter?

I don't think so. It was registered in 1998 by Overground Radio
Promotions of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, who seem to be in the music business.
TfL might be interested in their use of the roundel though.
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Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

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Paul Scott wrote:
"Mr Thant" wrote in
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(the ON website was taken down a few months ago. I presume the
signage can't be far behind)

I thought it looked a bit stale when I saw it a few months ago, but
I see www.overgroundnetwork.com now redirects to TfL's homepage. I was
wondering what would happen to the platform signs, because they
are basically quite useful, in a similar format to LU line maps. I guess
they could remain with some sort of minor rebranding, but to what? I
believe South London Metro has already been tried...

I wonder if http://www.overground.co.uk is a cybersquatter?

I don't think so. It was registered in 1998 by Overground Radio Promotions
of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, who seem to be in the music business. TfL might be
interested in their use of the roundel though.

Fair point. Maybe they should ask TfL to stop using the name for a railway
line though...

Paul

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:09:02 +0100, Fig wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:16:17 +0100, asdf wrote,
with reference to http://www.tfl.gov.uk/
The top row of links (Tube Rail Buses DLR) doesn't appear [using Opera].
If (with
the page open) you switch to another application then back to Opera,
the links mysteriously appear, but you still can't click on them or
highlight the text.

Just managed to recreate the bug here.
It appears to be dependant on the position of the links relative to the
viewport at page load.
I'll bring it up on the Opera forums so that we can narrow it down and get
a bug report filed.

Did you get any response?

--
jhk

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:26:51 +0100, Jarle H Knudsen wrote:

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:09:02 +0100, Fig wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:16:17 +0100, asdf
wrote,
with reference to http://www.tfl.gov.uk/
The top row of links (Tube Rail Buses DLR) doesn't appear [using
Opera].
If (with
the page open) you switch to another application then back to Opera,
the links mysteriously appear, but you still can't click on them or
highlight the text.

Just managed to recreate the bug here.
It appears to be dependant on the position of the links relative to the
viewport at page load.
I'll bring it up on the Opera forums so that we can narrow it down and
get
a bug report filed.

Did you get any response?

My apologies. Although I did a bit of experimenting here at the time, I
neglected to post to the community.
I have now. http://my.opera.com/community/forums....pl?id=2209457

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Fig