On Jul 6, 3:20 am, TheOneKEA wrote:
Oh wonderful. If any of the usual suspects acquire it I can see
Chiltern getting sucked into a tiolet tank and turned into a shadow of
its clean, reliable, expansionist, common-sense self. Whoopee.

It's expansionism seems to be a shadow of its former self already. The
"Projects" section of their website lists:
- Aylesbury Vale Parkway (fair enough)
- Evergreen 2 (completed last year)
- Wembley depot (completed 2005)
- West Hampstead Interchange (dead)

Sounds like they could do with a new injection of cash.

U

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In article .com,
Mr Thant wrote:

On Jul 6, 3:20 am, TheOneKEA wrote:
Oh wonderful. If any of the usual suspects acquire it I can see
Chiltern getting sucked into a tiolet tank and turned into a shadow of
its clean, reliable, expansionist, common-sense self. Whoopee.

It's expansionism seems to be a shadow of its former self already. The
"Projects" section of their website lists:
- Aylesbury Vale Parkway (fair enough)
- Evergreen 2 (completed last year)
- Wembley depot (completed 2005)
- West Hampstead Interchange (dead)

Sounds like they could do with a new injection of cash.

which of those did Chiltern pay for, I guess none but I am not a local,
certainly Evergreen is Network rail


SB

On 6 Jul, 13:06, Steve Broadbent wrote:
In article .com,
Mr Thant wrote:

On Jul 6, 3:20 am, TheOneKEA wrote:
Oh wonderful. If any of the usual suspects acquire it I can see
Chiltern getting sucked into a tiolet tank and turned into a shadow of
its clean, reliable, expansionist, common-sense self. Whoopee.

It's expansionism seems to be a shadow of its former self already. The
"Projects" section of their website lists:
- Aylesbury Vale Parkway (fair enough)
- Evergreen 2 (completed last year)
- Wembley depot (completed 2005)
- West Hampstead Interchange (dead)

Sounds like they could do with a new injection of cash.

which of those did Chiltern pay for, I guess none but I am not a local,
certainly Evergreen is Network rail


John Laing Group was project manager for Evergreen 1 although the work
was carried out by and for Network Rail.

Evergreen 2 was carried out by John Laing Group on a Design, Build,
Finance and Transfer basis. John Laing Group funded the project and
took full commercial risk. However the assets became the property of
Network Rail, because that is the way the franchise system works,
Chiltern Railways being effectively prevented from owning such
assets.

"The Good Doctor" wrote

Evergreen 2 was carried out by John Laing Group on a Design, Build,
Finance and Transfer basis. John Laing Group funded the project and
took full commercial risk. However the assets became the property of
Network Rail, because that is the way the franchise system works,
Chiltern Railways being effectively prevented from owning such
assets.

AIUI Chiltern do own a couple of infrastructure assets, including Warwick
Parway station and the 'new' platform at Princes Risborough.

Peter

On 6 Jul, 18:04, "Peter Masson" wrote:
"The Good Doctor" wrote

Evergreen 2 was carried out by John Laing Group on a Design, Build,
Finance and Transfer basis. John Laing Group funded the project and
took full commercial risk. However the assets became the property of
Network Rail, because that is the way the franchise system works,
Chiltern Railways being effectively prevented from owning such
assets.

AIUI Chiltern do own a couple of infrastructure assets, including Warwick
Parway station and the 'new' platform at Princes Risborough.


Warwick Parkway is indeed owned by Chiltern Railways. However, it
predated the Evergreen project and hence played no part in Evergreen
1, nor Evergreen 2. It is doubtful whether a TOC-owned station could
ever be built on National Rail in future, given the substantial
changes in the nature of rail franchising since the Warwick Parkway
project was initiated.

Peter Masson wrote:
"The Good Doctor" wrote
Evergreen 2 was carried out by John Laing Group on a Design, Build,
Finance and Transfer basis. John Laing Group funded the project and
took full commercial risk. However the assets became the property of
Network Rail, because that is the way the franchise system works,
Chiltern Railways being effectively prevented from owning such
assets.

AIUI Chiltern do own a couple of infrastructure assets, including Warwick
Parway station and the 'new' platform at Princes Risborough.

So does that mean Chiltern could "take their ball home", if a situation
ever arose where they felt like doing so (perhaps a Connex-style early
termination)? "It's our platform, and you can't have it..."

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

In article ,
Arthur Figgis wrote:
Peter Masson wrote:
"The Good Doctor" wrote
Evergreen 2 was carried out by John Laing Group on a Design, Build,
Finance and Transfer basis. John Laing Group funded the project and
took full commercial risk. However the assets became the property of
Network Rail, because that is the way the franchise system works,
Chiltern Railways being effectively prevented from owning such
assets.

AIUI Chiltern do own a couple of infrastructure assets, including Warwick
Parway station and the 'new' platform at Princes Risborough.

So does that mean Chiltern could "take their ball home", if a situation
ever arose where they felt like doing so (perhaps a Connex-style early
termination)? "It's our platform, and you can't have it..."

"It's our tunnel ...."

Nick
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