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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:07:17 -0700 someone who may be Neil Williams
wrote this:- It does, admittedly, say something about my personality (and the personalities of the other 99), I imagine, which is that I don't like being told what to do but I do accept reason. That makes you a "dangerous intellectual" to those who follow the cult of Stalin. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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Ken Ward wrote:
I understand the reason for a complete closure of the station and the lines through was "Body parts on the platform". Presumably disconnected body parts. Body parts on the platform per se shouldn't be a reason to close a station! ;-) |
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![]() "Ken Ward" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 12, 9:47 pm, (Neil Williams) I've just looked at the service disruptions on National Rail, and the last update (timed at 21.58) says that disruption is expected until 23.00, Silverlink Metro is now stopping at Harrow, but County and Southern aren't. I'm not sure what BTP's rationale was (assuming it really was them who made the decision), but without more information it would be unfair to be too critical - after all, we seldom do criticism of BTP on here, do we? I understand the reason for a complete closure of the station and the lines through was "Body parts on the platform". Which platform, there are 6 of them to choose from at Harrow. Kevin |
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![]() "Jack Taylor" wrote in message ... Ken Ward wrote: I understand the reason for a complete closure of the station and the lines through was "Body parts on the platform". Presumably disconnected body parts. Body parts on the platform per se shouldn't be a reason to close a station! ;-) That seems not to apply at Euston though :-( -- Ken Ward Join the group that puts Marine Environment before aching backs! @ |
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![]() "zen83237" wrote in message ... I understand the reason for a complete closure of the station and the lines through was "Body parts on the platform". Which platform, there are 6 of them to choose from at Harrow. I don't have that information but, I would presume all traffic was suspended until evidence and the clean up were concluded. It is not normally accepted that BTP, Undertakers or clean up staff are expected to dodge moving trains in the course of their jobs or have commuters walking amongst them. -- Ken Ward Join the group that puts Marine Environment before aching backs! @ |
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![]() "David Hansen" wrote in message ... On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:07:17 -0700 someone who may be Neil Williams wrote this:- It does, admittedly, say something about my personality (and the personalities of the other 99), I imagine, which is that I don't like being told what to do but I do accept reason. That makes you a "dangerous intellectual" to those who follow the cult of Stalin. Or as was said on Monty Python. There's nothing more dangerous that an Intelligent Sheep! -- Ken Ward Join the group that puts Marine Environment before aching backs! @ |
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Jack Taylor wrote:
Ken Ward wrote: I understand the reason for a complete closure of the station and the lines through was "Body parts on the platform". Presumably disconnected body parts. Body parts on the platform per se shouldn't be a reason to close a station! ;-) Well, if it's a good enough reason to close a motorway for six hours, why not spread the grief! -- Moving things in still pictures! |
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![]() "Neil Williams" wrote About an hour later, an announcement was made that platforms 8-11 would be closed and that people should return to the concourse. This was said to be due to dangerous overcrowding, which was not evident from where I was sitting. A further 15 minutes later, a member of staff came through the train chucking everyone off (fairly rudely), and the unit was locked OOU. It didn't, however, go anywhere. I can think of some good reasons why a train which has been indefinitely delayed at its starting point should be cleared and locked out of use. Unfortunately the reason you were given was not one of them - so if they had a good reason they should have told you the truth and acted firmly but politely to clear the train. The train crew may have been running out of hours - unless another crew had been assigned to take over they would have to shut down and secure the train. Control may have wished to recover the service by running the first train able to leave fast to, say, Milton Keynes - so it wouldn't be overwhelmed by hordes for all stations along the line, who could have been directed to a second train a few minutes later. They wouldn't want there to be passengers on the train for intermediate stations, who may miss announcements, or who may wish to try to leave the platform as a full trainload are trying to join the train. Peter |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:43:45 +0100, "zen83237"
wrote: Which platform, there are 6 of them to choose from at Harrow. A report I have seen says the Up Main - the person was under a Virgin train. No idea what platform number that is but I'm sure someone else on group does know. -- Paul C |
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In reply to news post, which Peter Masson
wrote on Fri, 13 Jul 2007 - Control may have wished to recover the service by running the first train able to leave fast to, say, Milton Keynes - so it wouldn't be overwhelmed by hordes for all stations along the line, who could have been directed to a second train a few minutes later. They wouldn't want there to be passengers on the train for intermediate stations, who may miss announcements, or who may wish to try to leave the platform as a full trainload are trying to join the train. I was on the 17:58 from MKC to Euston. The staff at MKC warned of delays, but we shot along to just past Hemel when we stopped. We were held for about an hour. The driver told us there was a fatality at Harrow and all lines were blocked. He advised we were to Terminate at Watford as all trains were, but we had to wait to get into the station. I was making my plan to get to Watford Met as the train moved from the fast to the slow and went into Watford, everyone stood up to get off, but the driver said he had been given the all clear and we then shot on at line speed to Euston. Our train was not full, there were two Virgin trains at Watford and many people on platform 9 which we passed, I bet they were "please" we did not stop to pick them up, I know I would have been annoyed, especially as we slowed right down to go through Watford -- Matthew P Jones www.ThisIsAmersham.com www.amersham.org.uk www.metroland.org.uk Don't reply directly it will not be read. You can reply to knap AT Nildram then dot co then dot uk |
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