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00:59:32 on Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Bob remarked:
http://www.silicon.com/publicsector/...9168037,00.htm

Of course this will mean the need for cyber gripping.


"Transport For London's Oyster card does not comply with Itso,
so Lynch will not be able to integrate his scheme with it.

Lynch said: "I decided, let's drop the card out of the concept.
Why not use a device which everyone already has - their phone?"

So are they suggesting everyone waves their phone screen at the
barriers, having fumbled around to retrieve a picture message with a
barcode on it? And will the phone then have its amount of credit updated
by SMS (I can't see how else it would work).
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On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Roland Perry wrote:

So are they suggesting everyone waves their phone screen at the
barriers, having fumbled around to retrieve a picture message with a
barcode on it? And will the phone then have its amount of credit updated
by SMS (I can't see how else it would work).


First tried this on the ftr (York) before the scrapped the entire machine
ticket system. It was fiddly, which makes it slow.

You could get an email of the barcode and print it out which was a lot
easier than faffing with your phone, but compared to non-contact (or even
the normal train mag-strip) cards, still slow to use.
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In message , at
12:45:50 on Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Chris Johns remarked:
So are they suggesting everyone waves their phone screen at the
barriers, having fumbled around to retrieve a picture message with a
barcode on it? And will the phone then have its amount of credit updated
by SMS (I can't see how else it would work).


First tried this on the ftr (York) before the scrapped the entire
machine ticket system. It was fiddly, which makes it slow.

You could get an email of the barcode and print it out which was a lot
easier than faffing with your phone, but compared to non-contact (or
even the normal train mag-strip) cards, still slow to use.


Chiltern are allegedly trialling a system like this for a subset of
their Advance Purchase tickets.
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On 3 Aug, 13:40, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at
12:45:50 on Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Chris Johns remarked:

So are they suggesting everyone waves their phone screen at the
barriers, having fumbled around to retrieve a picture message with a
barcode on it? And will the phone then have its amount of credit updated
by SMS (I can't see how else it would work).


W14_Fishborne's useful post elsewhere on this thread clears up the
confusion of two separate mobile phone ticketing technologies.


First tried this on the ftr (York) before the scrapped the entire
machine ticket system. It was fiddly, which makes it slow.


You could get an email of the barcode and print it out which was a lot
easier than faffing with your phone, but compared to non-contact (or
even the normal train mag-strip) cards, still slow to use.


Chiltern are allegedly trialling a system like this for a subset of
their Advance Purchase tickets.


No allegedly about it. If you go to Marylebone station you'll see that
at least one automatic gate has been equipped with a bar code reader.
I can imagine that it's probably best not to line up behind someone
struggling to scan their mobile's barcode at such a gate though!

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