On Aug 15, 12:44 am, Barry Salter wrote:
Andy wrote:
Easiest way is to goto the ticket office at an LUL railway station
(i.e. not Wimbledon) and ask for the zone 3-5 season to be upgraded to
a zone 3-6. You will pay the difference in price between an annual 3-5
and an annual 3-6, scaled according to how many days remain on the
original season. This will also be cheaper than adding zone 5-6 as an
extra. You could always do this with the paper tickets too. I'll be
moving myself in the near future, from Zone 2 to Zone 5 and made sure
that I can upgrade simply on my Oyster, the information coming from
the ticket office at Warren Street.

NB: A changeover has to be done by the location that originally issued
the ticket. Though it MAY be possible to get one at ANY LU Ticket Office
if you bought it from there.

An example:

Annual Zone 3-5 £776
Annual Zone 3-6 £928

Difference £152

So, if you have 6 months left on the first annual, you pay £76 for a
zone 3-6 ending on the same day as you original. This is documented
somewhere on the LT website, but I can't immediately find it, but the
following appears on the national rail website (http://
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_...n_ticket_condi...

Not quite. The amounts are all worked out pro rata, as an Annual is
priced at 40x the 7 day rate.

I wrote up a "Changeovers for Dummies" once, to make life easier for my
colleagues, but I've no longer got the original, alas.

Here's a walkthrough for this example. I'll assume the ticket was bought
after the January fares change, to make life easier, and there was no
Passenger Charter discount and no "lost days" added.

We'll also assume that the Original Ticket is valid from 16th February
007 to 15th February 2008, as it makes calculations easier.

New Ticket starts on 16th August 2007 and expires on 15th February 2008,
for a total of 184 days.

The original ticket cost £776 and an Annual for Zones 3 to 6 would have
been £928.

The "Base Rate" for the original ticket is £776 / 365 days, which is
£2.13 per day (rounded to the nearest penny), and the base rate for the
new ticket is £928 / 365 days, which is £2.54 (rounded to the nearest
penny).

The credit for the original ticket, therefore, is £2.13 x 184 days,
which is £391.92.

The price of the new ticket is £2.54 x 184 days, which is £467.36.

Therefore, the additional amount to be paid for the changeover is
£467.36 - £391.92, which is £75.44.

HTH,

Barry

And as it is calculated by the day, why can't I extend my ticket to
use zones 1-6 for the daily difference?

Could I extend it for one day and then "de-extend" it for the next
day ;-)

(I don't mind paying the 320 pounds and then getting a 319GBP refund.)

My season ticket is Watford Junction to London Euston. I've just
checked and at current prices it's exactly 320GBP more to include
zones 1-6 - 340GBP for a first class ticket.

So I really ought to be able to extend my ticket for one day for 1GBP.

There is no WAT to EUS + Zone 1(and2?) only option. A Z1&2 is about
half the price of a Z1-6 so adding Z1&2 for an extra 160GBP would be
nice - and I'd do it even though this would probably be more expensive
than me using an oyster although it is going to be close. Now that
I've got autotopup it's going to be interesting to see how much I
actually spend on oyster - I can go through my visa statements to find
out when and how much I've topped up.

Tim.

On Aug 16, 10:54 am, Andy wrote:
On Aug 16, 7:28 am, ocoro02
wrote:

Thanks for the replies! I made the fatal mistake of buying the ticket
online so will have to chance it at some random LUL ticket station. I
don't use underground as part of my daily trip so none is relevant. I'm
getting quite tempted to cancel the season and get a paper one ...

--
ocoro02

Ok, I've managed to track down the section on the Oyster website
(links below)

begin copied text
I need more zones added to the Travelcard on my Oyster card, what do I
do?

If your Travelcard has more than 1 month validity remaining, you can
exchange it for one with more zones.

You will need to visit a Tube station ticket office or call the Oyster
Ticketing and Refunds office on 0845 330 9881 (Calls from BT landlines
cost 3.5p per minute. Calls from mobiles vary depending on network).
and they will explain what you need to do get your replacement
Travelcard, which will be issued on your existing Oyster card. Please
allow 7 working days for your new Travelcard to be issued.

If your ticket has 1 month or less validity remaining on it, call the
Oyster helpline on 0845 330 9876 (Calls from BT landlines cost 3.5p
per minute. Calls from mobiles vary depending on network)., to discuss
other options available to you.

We are not able to offer this service on Travelcards paid for by a
Travel Warrant.

end copied text

(Direct link contains a session ID, so may not work)https://transportforlondon.custhelp....rtforlondon.cf...

If it doesn't, goto

https://transportforlondon.custhelp....rtforlondon.cf...

and enter

travelcard more zones

into the search, it should be the first answer that comes back.

This clearly says any Tube station, so I imagine that the staff at
East Putney either can't be bothered, or havn't done it before and
need some training!! If you phone the Oyster number given above, it
may be worth mentioning that East Putney said they couldn't do it. I
also think that the seven days mentioned above only applies for
phoning the oyster number, not for doing it in person at the station.
It might be worth printing the bit from the website out and taking it
with you, and/or trying somewhere on the Northern line, if you are in
that part of Wimbledon.

Depending on how one interprets the paragraph that you quoted, it
might mean that at any LU station they can explain what you need to do
(eg go somewhere else or give up).

On Aug 22, 10:15 pm, MIG wrote:
On Aug 16, 10:54 am, Andy wrote:



On Aug 16, 7:28 am, ocoro02
wrote:

Thanks for the replies! I made the fatal mistake of buying the ticket
online so will have to chance it at some random LUL ticket station. I
don't use underground as part of my daily trip so none is relevant. I'm
getting quite tempted to cancel the season and get a paper one ...

--
ocoro02

Ok, I've managed to track down the section on the Oyster website
(links below)

begin copied text
I need more zones added to the Travelcard on my Oyster card, what do I
do?

If your Travelcard has more than 1 month validity remaining, you can
exchange it for one with more zones.

You will need to visit a Tube station ticket office or call the Oyster
Ticketing and Refunds office on 0845 330 9881 (Calls from BT landlines
cost 3.5p per minute. Calls from mobiles vary depending on network).
and they will explain what you need to do get your replacement
Travelcard, which will be issued on your existing Oyster card. Please
allow 7 working days for your new Travelcard to be issued.

If your ticket has 1 month or less validity remaining on it, call the
Oyster helpline on 0845 330 9876 (Calls from BT landlines cost 3.5p
per minute. Calls from mobiles vary depending on network)., to discuss
other options available to you.

We are not able to offer this service on Travelcards paid for by a
Travel Warrant.

end copied text

(Direct link contains a session ID, so may not work)https://transportforlondon.custhelp....rtforlondon.cf...

If it doesn't, goto

https://transportforlondon.custhelp....rtforlondon.cf...

and enter

travelcard more zones

into the search, it should be the first answer that comes back.

This clearly says any Tube station, so I imagine that the staff at
East Putney either can't be bothered, or havn't done it before and
need some training!! If you phone the Oyster number given above, it
may be worth mentioning that East Putney said they couldn't do it. I
also think that the seven days mentioned above only applies for
phoning the oyster number, not for doing it in person at the station.
It might be worth printing the bit from the website out and taking it
with you, and/or trying somewhere on the Northern line, if you are in
that part of Wimbledon.

Depending on how one interprets the paragraph that you quoted, it
might mean that at any LU station they can explain what you need to do
(eg go somewhere else or give up).

Or alternatively, you can take account of my original post, where
Warren Street said that they could do the change :P

The paragraph looks like it needs a good editor and I agree that it is
not clear whether the 'explain what you need to do' only applies to
the Oyster helpline, especially with the section about call costs in
the middle!!