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What about the costs - they will be passed on somehow so how
does that benefit people?


The cost to people's health is already high. People who take taxis are
less likely to be those affected by living near heavy traffic.


Want to bet?

I was at a friend's flat in Paddington last night. As we arrived, he was
just getting out of the "black bus" he'd caught home from work. His
(extremely nice and far from cheap) flat has a large balcony overlooking
the A40. The Edgware Rd is barely 300yds away.
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Adrian wrote:

Want to bet?

I was at a friend's flat in Paddington last night. As we arrived, he was
just getting out of the "black bus" he'd caught home from work. His
(extremely nice and far from cheap) flat has a large balcony overlooking
the A40. The Edgware Rd is barely 300yds away.


Well, that's a sample of one. Keep going and you might have something of
statistical significance.

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eastender ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Want to bet?

I was at a friend's flat in Paddington last night. As we arrived, he was
just getting out of the "black bus" he'd caught home from work. His
(extremely nice and far from cheap) flat has a large balcony overlooking
the A40. The Edgware Rd is barely 300yds away.


Well, that's a sample of one. Keep going and you might have something of
statistical significance.


There's about 150 flats in that building alone. One of the other flats on
the market at the mo for £2.6m.

Do you really think everywhere in Central London is a dirt-cheap hovel?
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Adrian wrote:

Do you really think everywhere in Central London is a dirt-cheap hovel?


Did you not see the words 'less likely' in what I said?

'Disadvantaged urban areas tend to be characterised by high traffic volume,
leading to increased levels of air and noise pollution and higher rates of
road traffic accidents without the benefits of access to private transport.'

http://www.archive.official-document.../ih/part2d.htm

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eastender ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Do you really think everywhere in Central London is a dirt-cheap
hovel?


Did you not see the words 'less likely' in what I said?

'Disadvantaged urban areas tend to be characterised by high traffic
volume, leading to increased levels of air and noise pollution and
higher rates of road traffic accidents without the benefits of access
to private transport.'


I'm sure that is the case, nationally.

However you can't extrapolate from that to the (unusual) case of Central
London - the fact is that there are plenty of affluent people in London who
also live on very busy truck routes. I'm not sure why you want to turn it
into a class-war issue, but if that floats your boat, go right ahead.


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Adrian wrote:

I'm not sure why you want to turn it
into a class-war issue, but if that floats your boat, go right ahead.


No, just interested in the facts.

'Areas of London with low air quality, high levels of noise pollution and
deficiencies in green space closely match those with the highest levels of
deprivation.'

www.london.gov.uk/mayor/health/ docs/finalissuesforlondon2007.pdf

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eastender wrote:
Adrian wrote:

I'm not sure why you want to turn it
into a class-war issue, but if that floats your boat, go right ahead.


No, just interested in the facts.

'Areas of London with low air quality, high levels of noise pollution
and deficiencies in green space closely match those with the highest
levels of deprivation.'

www.london.gov.uk/mayor/health/ docs/finalissuesforlondon2007.pdf


Sounds like more Livingstone lies to me. The blocks of flats which line the
A41 from Marble Arch to Childs Hill all look pretty expensive to me. The
most deprived areas tend to be pedestrianised and very quiet.


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