On Aug 31, 12:42 pm, chunky munky
wrote:
On Aug 31, 11:49 am, Kev wrote:

So how do we find out about this, bugger all on the TfL site. That Ken
really is a smart cookie. Called for Metronet to go bankrupt, got what
he wanted and what is the first thing that the cretins in the union
do.
I'd say that they got exactly what they deserved, or what Ken wished
upon them.

Kevin

You never know before the day.
However I doubt that any service will operate on Metronet lines. If
the trains can be prepped for service there will be no-one (apart from
Managers, and thats i they turn up) to get trains into and out of
depots, (except Neasden as that is LUL). If a Signal Failure or
Defective Train occurs what then?

Also, it does has the capability to affect all lines, if there is no-
one in the Fault Report Centre, or they become over-whelmed

Dont expect TfL (Kens 2nd Press Office) to say anything useless,
except blame everything other than Ken

I have been led to belive that there will be disruption on the Jubilee
as some trains come out of Neasden and it will be picketed.
Just wonder why there is, apparantly, nothing being quoted publicly.

Kevin

On Aug 31, 1:09 pm, Kev wrote:
On Aug 31, 12:42 pm, chunky munky
wrote:





On Aug 31, 11:49 am, Kev wrote:

So how do we find out about this, bugger all on the TfL site. That Ken
really is a smart cookie. Called for Metronet to go bankrupt, got what
he wanted and what is the first thing that the cretins in the union
do.
I'd say that they got exactly what they deserved, or what Ken wished
upon them.

Kevin

You never know before the day.
However I doubt that any service will operate on Metronet lines. If
the trains can be prepped for service there will be no-one (apart from
Managers, and thats i they turn up) to get trains into and out of
depots, (except Neasden as that is LUL). If a Signal Failure or
Defective Train occurs what then?

Also, it does has the capability to affect all lines, if there is no-
one in the Fault Report Centre, or they become over-whelmed

Dont expect TfL (Kens 2nd Press Office) to say anything useless,
except blame everything other than Ken

I have been led to belive that there will be disruption on the Jubilee
as some trains come out of Neasden and it will be picketed.
Just wonder why there is, apparantly, nothing being quoted publicly.

Kevin- Hide quoted text -

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6971816.stm

I wonder when TfL are going to tell us.

Kevin

Crap! And of course the strike is planned exactly on two days of my
vacation where I needed to use Tube the most, including visits to
several job interviews.

On Aug 31, 1:09 pm, Kev wrote:
On Aug 31, 12:42 pm, chunky munky
wrote:



On Aug 31, 11:49 am, Kev wrote:

So how do we find out about this, bugger all on the TfL site. That Ken
really is a smart cookie. Called for Metronet to go bankrupt, got what
he wanted and what is the first thing that the cretins in the union
do.
I'd say that they got exactly what they deserved, or what Ken wished
upon them.

Kevin

You never know before the day.
However I doubt that any service will operate on Metronet lines. If
the trains can be prepped for service there will be no-one (apart from
Managers, and thats i they turn up) to get trains into and out of
depots, (except Neasden as that is LUL). If a Signal Failure or
Defective Train occurs what then?

Also, it does has the capability to affect all lines, if there is no-
one in the Fault Report Centre, or they become over-whelmed

Dont expect TfL (Kens 2nd Press Office) to say anything useless,
except blame everything other than Ken

I have been led to belive that there will be disruption on the Jubilee
as some trains come out of Neasden and it will be picketed.
Just wonder why there is, apparantly, nothing being quoted publicly.

Kevin

I doubt that Tube Lines will have trouble prepping their trains there.
This will be the only depot that will be able to send trains out and
take them back. Thats if Metronet can offer them for service.
Disruption may also occur on other lines where Metronet are the
Infraco for part of the line or control centre.

On Aug 31, 2:33 pm, chunky munky
wrote:
On Aug 31, 1:09 pm, Kev wrote:





On Aug 31, 12:42 pm, chunky munky
wrote:

On Aug 31, 11:49 am, Kev wrote:

So how do we find out about this, bugger all on the TfL site. That Ken
really is a smart cookie. Called for Metronet to go bankrupt, got what
he wanted and what is the first thing that the cretins in the union
do.
I'd say that they got exactly what they deserved, or what Ken wished
upon them.

Kevin

You never know before the day.
However I doubt that any service will operate on Metronet lines. If
the trains can be prepped for service there will be no-one (apart from
Managers, and thats i they turn up) to get trains into and out of
depots, (except Neasden as that is LUL). If a Signal Failure or
Defective Train occurs what then?

Also, it does has the capability to affect all lines, if there is no-
one in the Fault Report Centre, or they become over-whelmed

Dont expect TfL (Kens 2nd Press Office) to say anything useless,
except blame everything other than Ken

I have been led to belive that there will be disruption on the Jubilee
as some trains come out of Neasden and it will be picketed.
Just wonder why there is, apparantly, nothing being quoted publicly.

Kevin

I doubt that Tube Lines will have trouble prepping their trains there.
This will be the only depot that will be able to send trains out and
take them back. Thats if Metronet can offer them for service.
Disruption may also occur on other lines where Metronet are the
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But will the Jubilee drivers cross the picket lines.

Kevin

On Aug 31, 3:24 pm, Kev wrote:
On Aug 31, 2:33 pm, chunky munky
wrote:



On Aug 31, 1:09 pm, Kev wrote:

On Aug 31, 12:42 pm, chunky munky
wrote:

On Aug 31, 11:49 am, Kev wrote:

So how do we find out about this, bugger all on the TfL site. That Ken
really is a smart cookie. Called for Metronet to go bankrupt, got what
he wanted and what is the first thing that the cretins in the union
do.
I'd say that they got exactly what they deserved, or what Ken wished
upon them.

Kevin

You never know before the day.
However I doubt that any service will operate on Metronet lines. If
the trains can be prepped for service there will be no-one (apart from
Managers, and thats i they turn up) to get trains into and out of
depots, (except Neasden as that is LUL). If a Signal Failure or
Defective Train occurs what then?

Also, it does has the capability to affect all lines, if there is no-
one in the Fault Report Centre, or they become over-whelmed

Dont expect TfL (Kens 2nd Press Office) to say anything useless,
except blame everything other than Ken

I have been led to belive that there will be disruption on the Jubilee
as some trains come out of Neasden and it will be picketed.
Just wonder why there is, apparantly, nothing being quoted publicly.

Kevin

I doubt that Tube Lines will have trouble prepping their trains there.
This will be the only depot that will be able to send trains out and
take them back. Thats if Metronet can offer them for service.
Disruption may also occur on other lines where Metronet are the
Infraco for part of the line or control centre.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

But will the Jubilee drivers cross the picket lines.

Kevin

There has been nothing put out to tell LUL staff to refuse to cross
picket lines.

chunky munky wrote:

There has been nothing put out to tell LUL staff to refuse to cross
picket lines.


The TSSA's guidance has the following to say (and I suspect other unions
are similar):

quote

In accordance with contractual requirements TSSA members are advised
that they should make every endeavour to report for duty as normal.

Where transport difficulties prevent members from getting to work they
should report their particular situation to their employer with the
minimum of delay. Where necessary members should use whatever means of
public transport are available.

At work, TSSA members are strongly advised to carry out their normal
duties and they should not volunteer to work extended hours arising
directly out of or in consequence of the dispute. Members are advised
not to agree to undertake any duties that could not be regarded as part
of their job description and/or have not in the past been undertaken by
them in their current post.

Members should not at any time during the dispute act in breach of their
Contracts of Employment and should carry out their normal duties in line
with that stated above.

The above paragraph does not apply to regular *rostered* overtime and
applies only to *additional* duties occasioned by the dispute.

snip

We would reiterate that our members should only work their usual roster,
including any regular rostered overtime, and should not volunteer to
work any additional hours arising out of the dispute.

TSSA may not lawfully encourage members to take part in secondary
industrial action. Members may, however, choose as a matter of
individual conscience, not to cross another union’s picket line.

Members who so choose should be aware that such action is likely to put
them in breach of contract, and may result in their employer taking
disciplinary action against them (including dismissal).

TSSA will provide advice, support and representation to any member
facing disciplinary action in such circumstances.

/quote

Cheers,

Barry

SNIP

But will the Jubilee drivers cross the picket lines.

Kevin


This has nothing to do with the drivers!! Its a strike by one of the
operating companies.
There certainly will not be a picket line outside a drivers depot.

All media referance to the strike was "pulled" on Friday on the
Mayor's order. Apparantly TSSA and UNITE (ex-TGWU) have reached an
agreement, no prizes for guessing that the RMT are those holding out
(though maybe isn't this always going to be the case as they tend to
represent the "poor bloody infantry"" which tend to come out worse
from any dispute?).

LU are expecting to wind down services from 1500-1700 Monday on the
BCV and SLL lines and not restore until Friday AM. If this *really*
occurs, it will be the most serious disruption since 1982 by my
reckoning, as though there have been strikes affecting more lines
since, these have been single days.