On 2007-09-02, wrote:
On 1 Sep, 19:36, Boltar wrote:
I can't help thinking that the escalators would get more people up and
down them in a given time if people could stand on both sides in the
rush hour since you always get a (sometimes dangerously) large queue
for the right side and far fewer people going on the left (plus theres
always some idiot tourist who can't read who blocks it anyway). I
realise it might inconvenience people in a hurry but I reckon the pros
would outweight the cons.

Opinions?

B2003

During the escalator reeplacement works from the Northern Line at
Moorgate there were signs and announcements advising customers to
stand on both sides.

Exactly, because you get better total throughput that way, though
obviously at the expense of those who want to use the left side
to hurry.

"Eric" wrote in message
.. .
On 2007-09-02, wrote:
On 1 Sep, 19:36, Boltar wrote:
I can't help thinking that the escalators would get more people up and
down them in a given time if people could stand on both sides in the
rush hour since you always get a (sometimes dangerously) large queue
for the right side and far fewer people going on the left (plus theres
always some idiot tourist who can't read who blocks it anyway). I
realise it might inconvenience people in a hurry but I reckon the pros
would outweight the cons.

Opinions?

B2003

During the escalator reeplacement works from the Northern Line at
Moorgate there were signs and announcements advising customers to
stand on both sides.

Exactly, because you get better total throughput that way, though
obviously at the expense of those who want to use the left side
to hurry.

I've wondered if the escalator components wear out at all differently on
left and right parts, due to the unbalanced loading?

Paul

"Paul Scott" wrote in message

"Eric" wrote in message
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On 2007-09-02, wrote:
On 1 Sep, 19:36, Boltar wrote:
I can't help thinking that the escalators would get more people up
and down them in a given time if people could stand on both sides
in the rush hour since you always get a (sometimes dangerously)
large queue for the right side and far fewer people going on the
left (plus theres always some idiot tourist who can't read who
blocks it anyway). I realise it might inconvenience people in a
hurry but I reckon the pros would outweight the cons.

Opinions?

B2003

During the escalator reeplacement works from the Northern Line at
Moorgate there were signs and announcements advising customers to
stand on both sides.

Exactly, because you get better total throughput that way, though
obviously at the expense of those who want to use the left side
to hurry.

I've wondered if the escalator components wear out at all differently
on left and right parts, due to the unbalanced loading?

Yes, I seem to remember reading that they do. Presumably the right-hand
side wears faster?

On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 20:12:01 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

I've wondered if the escalator components wear out at all differently on
left and right parts, due to the unbalanced loading?

Yes they do in much the same way as if escalators are designed to run up
and down but are typically only used in one direction.
--
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On 1 Sep, 19:36, Boltar wrote:
I can't help thinking that the escalators would get more people up and
down them in a given time if people could stand on both sides in the
rush hour since you always get a (sometimes dangerously) large queue
for the right side and far fewer people going on the left (plus theres
always some idiot tourist who can't read who blocks it anyway). I
realise it might inconvenience people in a hurry but I reckon the pros
would outweight the cons.

Opinions?

They should stop the escalators completly in rush hour -- people would
walk on both sides. It would speed things up and make people healthier
(and thinner, meaning more room on the trains in the long run)

On 2 Sep, 10:18, Boltar wrote:
True , but I was thinking of it being a way of clearing out the rush
hour crush at places like kings cross and victoria rather than getting
people anywhere quicker. Though I suppose theres an argument that
perhaps it would just move the crush to the other end of the
escalator.

B2003

The most dangerous thing is to move the crush to the top of the
escalator. The throughput of the escalator must not exceed the
throughput of the ticket barriers or you get Hillsbourgh in a tube
station. People cannot wait on escalators if there is a crowd ahead,
but they can wait at the base where nothing is forcing them forward.

On the other hand, when the crush _that_ bad, then yes, stand on both
sides as long as the barriers at the top can handle it. However, it
signifies that something needs to be done, usually involving adding an
extra escalator. And that's expensive.

On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:16:52 -0700, MIG wrote:

On Sep 2, 12:01 pm, " wrote:
On 1 Sep, 19:36, Boltar wrote:

I can't help thinking that the escalators would get more people up and
down them in a given time if people could stand on both sides in the
rush hour since you always get a (sometimes dangerously) large queue
for the right side and far fewer people going on the left (plus theres
always some idiot tourist who can't read who blocks it anyway). I
realise it might inconvenience people in a hurry but I reckon the pros
would outweight the cons.

Opinions?

B2003

During the escalator reeplacement works from the Northern Line at
Moorgate there were signs and announcements advising customers to
stand on both sides.


I don't think this is only during works. I think it's standard on the
escalators from the Jubilee at Bond Street, which has never been able
to cope since the extension.

Nevertheless, I tend to stand on only one side at a time.

Even more difficult to comply with are regular instructions to "use
both up escalators" at some stations ... I find it difficult to use
more than one at a time.

Do you always carry to obligatory canine? After all, "Dogs must be
carried".

Robin

"Boltar" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 2, 7:26 am, wrote:
Why not speed the escalators up? Or have, where there are several
escalators, one faster speed escalator. Paris had (or still has) a
faster speed "travelator" at Gare Montponarsse.

I don't think health and safety would be happy about that and for once
I'd probably agree with them. It would only take someone with a
suitcase or baby buggy to fall over at the end and there could be a
right mess.

B2003


try the escalators in Prague. My god are they fast and bloody steep

On 02/09/2007 11:40, Boltar wrote:
On Sep 2, 11:19 am, "tim....." wrote:

The people who travel in the rush hour know the rules
and queue up for the escalator accordingly. It's the
people who don't know the rules and block the walking
half unnecessarily that clog the system.


Unfortunately theres a lot of them, or at least there seem to be. I
see them almost every day. either blocking the left at the bottom
while they try and push in on the right or just standing on the left
regardless or anyone else behind. Also there seem to be a lot of
people (usually women it has to be said) who walk up on the left and
then who for reasons best known to themselves stop just before the end
causing a ripple effect all the way back. They really **** me off.

B2003

And you forget those people who have tow along cases who *must* stop at
the top and bottom to pull the handle out and cause chaos behind them.

And those who step off the bottom and have no idea where there going to
go so just stop dead in front of everyone.


My 2p worth!

In article .com,
Boltar writes

there seem to be a lot of
people (usually women it has to be said) who walk up on the left and
then who for reasons best known to themselves stop just before the end

They've probably just remembered they need to retrieve their ticket or
oyster card from their vast handbag.

It's the same in supermarket check out queues: the person in front of
you will wait 10 or more minutes to be served, but only begins digging
around for their purse after the cashier announces the total spend.
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