On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:08:47 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:


"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
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The bit he knows but conveniently fails to mention is that the
Administrator's legal duty is not centred on protecting pensions. While
I fully understand why the staff at Metronet are rightly concerned about
pensions Mr Crow is demanding the impossible and he knows it.

Going on strike is not the right way to secure the long term result he
says he wants which is to transfer Metronet work back to the public
sector. Why on earth would anyone wish to give him even more industrial
power by being able to pull even more people out on strike? This sort
of crap is just the sort of thing that Ken's political opponents want in
order to undermine the Mayor's policies on transport that I suspect most
people probably support.


What happens if Mr Crow's helpful stance results in the administrators
handing in the keys tomorrow and giving up their attempts to find a buyer or
indeed any other possible solution?

Strictly I have no idea but I would be amazed if the administrator did
that. They would be in breach of their duty to keep Metronet going
especially as TfL have provided funding. They would also precipitate a
massive crisis in London's transport network and I can't see that
politically Ernst and Young would be so stupid as to open themselves to
such ridicule and potential legal action. Reputationally they'd be
ruined.
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On 3 Sep, 20:02, Paul Corfield wrote:
The bit he knows but conveniently fails to mention is that the
Administrator's legal duty is not centred on protecting pensions. While
I fully understand why the staff at Metronet are rightly concerned about
pensions Mr Crow is demanding the impossible and he knows it.

Only way he'll be happy is if the government step in and guarentee the
pot. It'll be political suicide for Brown though, after his pension
taxes. Ken hasn't got the budget.

God knows what it is going to be like tomorrow - I might make it in but
how on earth I (and thousands of others) are going to get home I have no
idea if everything is as packed as I expect it to be. And to think we've
got 8 days of this if next week's action goes ahead!

25 miles each way on me bike, although I might try for on-street
parking arround Harrow and Wealdstone and riding 8 miles in, but I
don't know the area.

On Sep 3, 9:20 pm, Paul Weaver wrote:

Only way he'll be happy is if the government step in and guarentee the
pot. It'll be political suicide for Brown though, after his pension
taxes. Ken hasn't got the budget.

And given that Gordon Brown stuck 2 fingers up to the ombudsman over
Equitable Life little chance he will guarantee these pensions.

Kevin

On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:37:26 -0700, Kev wrote:

On Sep 3, 9:20 pm, Paul Weaver wrote:

Only way he'll be happy is if the government step in and guarentee the
pot. It'll be political suicide for Brown though, after his pension
taxes. Ken hasn't got the budget.

And given that Gordon Brown stuck 2 fingers up to the ombudsman over
Equitable Life little chance he will guarantee these pensions.

For those staff who were formerly LU employees and who transferred to
Metronet they have statutory protection via specific provisions under
the GLA Act (IIRC) and also the PPP Contract. People who started with
Metronet after transfer are in a very different situation indeed as I
believe they do not have membership of the TfL Pension Fund or any form
of special statutory protection. Whether they have gained from the
statements made by TfL and the Mayor remains to be seen.

Gordon Brown's views on this or his past decisions over Equitable Life
have no bearing at all on this dispute.

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On Sep 5, 6:26 pm, Paul Corfield wrote:


Gordon Brown's views on this or his past decisions over Equitable Life
have no bearing at all on this dispute.

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Paul C

Admits to working for London Underground!

Why not. The ombudsman found that there had been irregularities in the
regulation of EL, the Government made specific statements about the
safety of pensions, failed to regulate and were therefore deemed
liable by the ombudsman. The Government stuck two fingers up to the
fact that they were supposed to be responsible for this. How can they
now guarantee the pensions of ex LUL workers.
They could if they so desired stick 2 fingers up to Metronet workers,
thay have done to EL and the other workers that have had their
pensions stolen.

Kevin

On Sep 3, 3:53 pm, Barry Salter wrote:
A second 72-hour strike is scheduled to start at the same time next
Monday, September 10.

I think its written into the RMT constitution that they have to have
at least 1 strike a year on the tube. If it wasn't this they'd
probably be walking out over the colour of the bog rolls. Is there a
strike rota for different professions? Drivers one year, signalmen the
next , now track workers? Perhaps theres a requirement that they all
have to practice industrial action once every few years just to keep
the old memories alive.

B2003

On 3 Sep, 21:23, Boltar wrote:

I think its written into the RMT constitution that they have to have
at least 1 strike a year on the tube. If it wasn't this they'd
probably be walking out over the colour of the bog rolls. Is there a
strike rota for different professions?

I don't get it.. previous strikes have been around holidays (often to
allow for a nice four day weekend), or the infamous ones around World
Cup football matches.

What is it that Bob wants to see/do this time? There's nothing major
going on this week is there? My god, this time he's just done it for a
laugh!

Jonathan

What is it that Bob wants to see/do this time? There's nothing major
going on this week is there?

No, but the weather forecast is quite reasonable for this week.

Jonathan Morris ) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

I don't get it.. previous strikes have been around holidays (often to
allow for a nice four day weekend), or the infamous ones around World
Cup football matches.

What is it that Bob wants to see/do this time? There's nothing major
going on this week is there? My god, this time he's just done it for a
laugh!

I was wondering the exact same thing...

In article om,
Jonathan Morris writes

What is it that Bob wants to see/do this time? There's nothing major
going on this week is there?

The World Mountain Bike Championships started yesterday in Ft William,
and the Rugby World Cup starts on Friday.
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