On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 09:11:11 +0100, Jim Brittin
[wake up to reply] wrote:

In article . com,
says...
On 8 Sep, 01:56, wrote:
But while TheTrainline.com has a de-facto monopoly (it seems all the
others license their system), nothing will happen. Particularly now
Trainline is owned by some venture capital firm or other - they have
absolutely no interest in spending money improving a product which has
the market by the balls, since they get little benefit out of
passenger satisfaction, while the TOCs get the bad publicity if
Trainline's crap web-app is unable to perform such basic tasks.

Virgin now have their own non-trainline booking system (though the
Virgin-branded trainline is still around). It has options for Quiet
Zone, Power Socket, Table Seat and Window or Aisle (but not Facing or
Backwards) for any train, including non-Virgin.

https://www.buytickets.virgintrains.co.uk/

U

However they don't sell tickets for children, only young goats!

That should make journeys more peaceful!

Today at 01:21, Neil Sunderland wrote:
Kirk Northrop wrote:
I thought you couldn't break journey on a single ticket?

No, you can:
http://ukrailwayfaq.wikispaces.com/Ticket+Validity

Fair enough, I'll shut up then

--
Kirk

In article om,
(jonmorris) wrote:

(Mind you, I never thought it could mean coach A!).

Do GNER have trains with a coach A these days? Their electrics don't seem
to have them any more.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article ,
(Paul Scott) wrote:

But they don't give the options of F or B on newer trains with
uniquely numbered seats, which is the whole basis of the problem,
they all show as A, which leads to confusion - people have wrongly
interpreted it as meaning Aisle, or mistaken it for coach A.

More annoying is that it now seems impossible to book a seat with a table
any more. I don't particularly care which way I face but I hate airline
seats with a vengeance. Most don't have enough legroom for me and they
make me feel claustrophobic.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 23:38:13 +0100, Kirk Northrop
wrote:

I thought you couldn't break journey on a single ticket?

You can on pretty much all single tickets other than Saver Singles,
but only within the validity of the ticket. In the case of a Standard
Open Single I recall you can do one overight BoJ but in the case of
all the others the journey must be completed on the date shown with
some very specific exemptions on the Saver Single relating to the
availability of trains (and the Sleeper services).

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:45:19 -0700,
Mr Thant wrote:
On 8 Sep, 01:56, wrote:
But while TheTrainline.com has a de-facto monopoly (it seems all the
others license their system), nothing will happen. Particularly now
Trainline is owned by some venture capital firm or other - they have
absolutely no interest in spending money improving a product which has
the market by the balls, since they get little benefit out of
passenger satisfaction, while the TOCs get the bad publicity if
Trainline's crap web-app is unable to perform such basic tasks.

Virgin now have their own non-trainline booking system (though the
Virgin-branded trainline is still around). It has options for Quiet
Zone, Power Socket, Table Seat and Window or Aisle (but not Facing or
Backwards) for any train, including non-Virgin.

https://www.buytickets.virgintrains.co.uk/

Although the Virgin website doesn't sell tickets for all their trains.

I always go to the GNER website (mainly because 99% of my tickets are on
GNER) but I recently wanted to buy tickets Watford Junction to Chester.
I'd found the tickets on GNER but then remembered that last time I'd
booked Virgin tickets via GNER the tickets had only arrived about three
days before travel which is a bit nerve wracking so this time I decided
to buy them on the Virgin website.

Went onto the Virgin website and found the Northbound ticket no problem
but the Southbound one required me to go all the way into Euston
(departing Chester at the same time as the GNER website said) and then
back out on Silverlink (and was more expensive than the GNER direct
ticket). So went back to GNER and then realized that the GNER ticket was
first class, so not only a direct train and cheaper but also first class
as compared to standard class.

I could understand that possibly there were advance purchase first class
tickets available that I hadn't seen on the Virgin website but not that
you can't buy a standard class direct ticket at all (even though the
train does stop at Watford Junction - presumably you aren't allowed to
get off when you are on a standard class ticket?)

Tim.


--
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and there was light.

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"Tim Woodall" wrote

(even though the
train does stop at Watford Junction - presumably you aren't allowed to
get off when you are on a standard class ticket?)

In 1938 the 3.55 pm Paddington to South Wales Express called by request at
Badminton 'to set down 1st class Passengers from London on informing Guard
at London.'

Peter

On 11 Sep, 23:36, Tim Woodall wrote:
I could understand that possibly there were advance purchase first class
tickets available that I hadn't seen on the Virgin website but not that
you can't buy a standard class direct ticket at all (even though the
train does stop at Watford Junction - presumably you aren't allowed to
get off when you are on a standard class ticket?)

Yes, you can. Unless you're travelling on a Megatrain ticket or some
other to-be-announced fare type where it is explicitly prohibited, you
can *always* stop a journey short. Starting short is less clear.

(this sometimes provokes dispute in uk.r, but is unequivocally
permitted by the NCoC. Suffice to say if anyone ends up in court for
doing this, I hereby offer to pay you double your fine plus legal
costs. Contact me at the address below...)

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

On 8 Sep, 17:45, Mr Thant
wrote:
On 8 Sep, 01:56, wrote:

But while TheTrainline.com has a de-facto monopoly (it seems all the
others license their system), nothing will happen. Particularly now
Trainline is owned by some venture capital firm or other - they have
absolutely no interest in spending money improving a product which has
the market by the balls, since they get little benefit out of
passenger satisfaction, while the TOCs get the bad publicity if
Trainline's crap web-app is unable to perform such basic tasks.

Virgin now have their own non-trainline booking system (though the
Virgin-branded trainline is still around). It has options for Quiet
Zone, Power Socket, Table Seat and Window or Aisle (but not Facing or
Backwards) for any train, including non-Virgin.

https://www.buytickets.virgintrains.co.uk/

U


No - this is not a new non-Trainline system - it is just a different,
custom front end for Virgin Trains, it's still TheTrainline under the
hood.

In article . com,
(John B) wrote:

Yes, you can. Unless you're travelling on a Megatrain ticket or some
other to-be-announced fare type where it is explicitly prohibited,
you can *always* stop a journey short. Starting short is less clear.

Didn't cause me any problem using my Central Trains discount
Cambridge-Stamford day return to go from Cambridge to Peterborough for
the evening last night.

This might have been affected by the complete failure of anyone to look
at my ticket all night, mind. Cambridge station booking office said it
was OK.

--
Colin Rosenstiel