On Sep 26, 11:20 am, "Paul Scott"
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"Paul Corfield" wrote in message

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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:37:12 -0700, Paul Oter
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On 25 Sep, 22:35, Paul Corfield wrote:

The escalators and platforms have not been rebuilt though. Yes there is
more ticket hall and upper level circulation but not below.

Is the planned northern ticket hall expected to make things much
better? It won't increase the number of trains, not the size of the
platforms. And of course the new international and domestic services
to St Pancras will mean even more people using the underground
station.

Will each deep-level platform be given a new exit? Having an
alternative way off from the platform (especially the Northern line
platform, which have the exit at one end) would help a lot.

There is certainly a new link being added for the Picc Line and also
into the current Thameslink tunnel (between the Vic and Picc Lines). I
think the Northern is also getting a new entry / exit point into the
corridor that will run to the Northern ticket hall. I haven't seen a
specific new entrance on the Vic line platforms - I think people would
be directed to the Thameslink corridor.

This has a bit more info

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...ov06-Apr07_FIN...

That will help spread people throughout the station but platforms are
still the same length and depth plus people tend to congregate at entry
and exit points rather than walk along. There will still come a point
where it is impossible to get people on or off platforms if the train
service is up the creek.

I found some DfT sponsored plans for the Northern Ticket Hall and associated
passageways from 2004. Heavy going, but shows all future stages of
development, the final arrangements seem to be figure 12, and confirms what
you say above about the Victoria line not having a new entrance. There has
been much previous debate about the eastern most route from the Victoria
line platforms to the KX Thameslink entrance, you would imagine they'd have
to make a decision soon, even if it only removes a very small % of the tube
ticket hall footfall it would seem to be helpful...

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/rail/pi/ct...tationcapacity

Paul S

Thanks, I've been looking for a diagram like that for ages! Looks as
if it's going to be a long walk from the Northern ticket hall to all
three tube lines, but hopefully the ambience and dimensions of the new
corridors will make up for that.