I thought this may be interesting to you. I sure am happy that some
people higher up are starting to see the light.

Kelly's rail tickets pledge
By Staff Reporter

Rail tickets will be made simpler and easier to use so people get the
right one at the right price, Transport Secretary Ruth Kelly pledged
today.

The move comes as Which? magazine reported that poor advice about
fares means some passengers are paying well over the odds.

Proposals for simplified fares were first outlined in the Government's
rail white paper, including four clear categories for fares and an
industry price promise to offer the cheapest fare or refund the
difference.
Ms Kelly told Labour's Bournemouth conference today: "I will make sure
that tickets will be simpler and easy to use and people can be
confident they are getting the right ticket at the right price."
She promised to give councils stronger powers over bus services which
she conceded were "not good enough" in many areas.

Ms Kelly, who is leaving the conference by train rather than
ministerial car, said travel patterns must change, warning: "We simply
can't build our way out of road congestion, so let us have the debate
on road pricing."
And she derided David Cameron's eco-credentials, telling delegates the
Tory leader was "desperately trying to appeal to everyone and finding
he is increasingly appealing to no one".
Mr Cameron had no clear values or vision, she argued, adding: "We
reject the Tories' false choice - that as a nation we can either be
'rich and dirty' or 'poor and green'.
"This isn't an either/or question. We don't have to choose between
tackling global warming and supporting economic growth."
Tackling climate change was the "real pro-growth strategy", Ms Kelly
said.
"This means giving people the right incentives to make greener
choices.
"Enabling individuals to choose how to reduce their own carbon
footprint.
"Not telling them, as the Tories do, that they can't take cheap breaks
- that flying should once again be the preserve of a privileged
elite."

"Mr Thant" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi,

What are people's experiences buying unusual or long distance or
Railcard-discounted tickets at NR stations where the ticket office is
run by LUL? Also, any luck getting Railcard-discounted Day Travelcards
at ordinary LUL stations?


I would imagine anything to do with Day Travelcards is strictly off limits
to a LU station, as they have been binned in favour of Oyster Pre Pay daily
capping surely? So a railcard discount is academic...

Paul

On 26 Sep, 17:26, "Paul Scott" wrote:
What are people's experiences buying unusual or long distance or
Railcard-discounted tickets at NR stations where the ticket office is
run by LUL? Also, any luck getting Railcard-discounted Day Travelcards
at ordinary LUL stations?

I would imagine anything to do with Day Travelcards is strictly off limits
to a LU station, as they have been binned in favour of Oyster Pre Pay daily
capping surely? So a railcard discount is academic...

No, you can still absolutely buy Day Travelcards at LU stations.

Whether this will change when NR moves to PrePay within the zones is
another question, but it will certainly continue for as long as the
ticket exists....

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

"Paul Scott" wrote in message
...

"Mr Thant" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi,

What are people's experiences buying unusual or long distance or
Railcard-discounted tickets at NR stations where the ticket office is
run by LUL? Also, any luck getting Railcard-discounted Day Travelcards
at ordinary LUL stations?


I would imagine anything to do with Day Travelcards is strictly off limits
to a LU station, as they have been binned in favour of Oyster Pre Pay
daily capping surely? So a railcard discount is academic...

You can still buy paper One Day Travelcards from LUL stations and until
every NR station in London is equipped for Oyster they will have to continue
selling them.

Peter Smyth

"Peter Smyth" wrote in message
...

"Paul Scott" wrote in message
...

"Mr Thant" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi,

What are people's experiences buying unusual or long distance or
Railcard-discounted tickets at NR stations where the ticket office is
run by LUL? Also, any luck getting Railcard-discounted Day Travelcards
at ordinary LUL stations?


I would imagine anything to do with Day Travelcards is strictly off
limits to a LU station, as they have been binned in favour of Oyster Pre
Pay daily capping surely? So a railcard discount is academic...

You can still buy paper One Day Travelcards from LUL stations and until
every NR station in London is equipped for Oyster they will have to
continue selling them.


Then the only reason I have an Oyster card at all is because some prat in an
LU ticket office at Baker St told me last year they were no longer selling
day travelcards, and if I wanted one I'd have to go to a NR station...

Maybe he'd been too taken in by the Oyster training course...

Paul