On Sep 30, 12:44 pm, "John Rowland"
wrote:
Nick Leverton wrote:
In article . com,
Boltar wrote:
On Sep 29, 10:56 pm, "Richard J."
wrote:
I'm pretty sure they dug it up. There are, after all, hurriedly
constructed runways on wartime airfields which are still there 60
years later.

Good point. I know there are plenty of sections small roads that have
been just cut off and left to their own devices but are there any
large sections of A roads (or motorways) that were bypassed and
disused and just left alone?

Probably the longest stretch I know of: when the M74 opened, the A74
trunk dual carriageway was converted to single carriageway B-road,
with the whole length of the second carriageway being abandoned to
nature.

Oh yeah...http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v...908083&style=a...

I see a whole new hobby here, finding bit of modern roads that have
been closed, abandoned junction plans etc. There was an interesting
claim in the local paper last week that ground work was actually
undertaken for services betweeb J's 9 and 10 on the M25. This has been
controversial for some years now as locals are worried what effect a
motorway services would have on their million pound plus properties.
Now someone has said that hew was actually engaged in test drilling
back in hte 1980's, before the plan was even officially mooted.

Neill

"verbena" wrote in message
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Oh
yeah...http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v...908083&style=a...

I see a whole new hobby here, finding bit of modern roads that have
been closed, abandoned junction plans etc. There was an interesting
claim in the local paper last week that ground work was actually
undertaken for services betweeb J's 9 and 10 on the M25. This has been
controversial for some years now as locals are worried what effect a
motorway services would have on their million pound plus properties.
Now someone has said that hew was actually engaged in test drilling
back in hte 1980's, before the plan was even officially mooted.


I can think of a few sites on the motorway network where services have been
planned since the very start of construction, a good example is on the M27
at Fareham West, where the the westbound off slip is nearly a mile long
with further slip roads easily visible, and the eastbound on slip is
paralled by about half a mile of road for access to the future services.
Been there 30 years now so why do the Nimbys always seem so surprised?

Paul

Paul Scott wrote:

I can think of a few sites on the motorway network where services have been
planned since the very start of construction, a good example is on the M27
at Fareham West, where the the westbound off slip is nearly a mile long
with further slip roads easily visible, and the eastbound on slip is
paralled by about half a mile of road for access to the future services.
Been there 30 years now so why do the Nimbys always seem so surprised?

Other planned (but unbuilt) sites for MSAs include:

Chigwell (Between Junctions 4 and 5 of the M11) - Site in use as a Works
Unit and Police Control Centre on the Northbound site

Staverton (Just South of Junction 10 of the M5) - Off slip "stub"
provided SB, on slip "stub" NB, still extant.

Moreton Valence (Between Junctions 12 and 13 of the M5) - Off slip
"stub" provided NB, on slip "stub" SB, still extant.

Harborough Magna (Between Junctions 1 and 2 of the M6) - Off slip
provided NB, on slip SB, still extant.

Doxey, nr Stafford (Between Junctions 13 and 14 of the M6) - All slips
constructed, MSA sites apparently screened by trees.

Newton-le-Willows (Between Junctions 22 and 23 of the M6) - All slips
constructed, EB site in use as Works Unit.

Basingstoke (Between Junctions 6 and 7 of the M3) - Off slip "stub"
provided SB, on slip "stub" NB, still extant. NB MSA site now a
residential area.

Cheers,

Barry

In article ,
(Barry Salter) wrote:

Harborough Magna (Between Junctions 1 and 2 of the M6) - Off slip
provided NB, on slip SB, still extant.

An overbridge was built here (without approach stairs) and never used. It
was finally demolished a few years back.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article ,
Barry Salter wrote:

Other planned (but unbuilt) sites for MSAs include:

Chigwell (Between Junctions 4 and 5 of the M11)
Staverton (Just South of Junction 10 of the M5)
Moreton Valence (Between Junctions 12 and 13 of the M5)
Harborough Magna (Between Junctions 1 and 2 of the M6)
Doxey, nr Stafford (Between Junctions 13 and 14 of the M6)
Newton-le-Willows (Between Junctions 22 and 23 of the M6)
Basingstoke (Between Junctions 6 and 7 of the M3)

There are slip stubs for a never-built service area on the M1 a little
south of where the present J23A is (Kegworth/Castle Donington). More
recently a service area was built at the top roundabout of J23A, leaving
the old stub exit/entrance half a mile away on the main line unused.

Nick
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Paul Scott wrote:

I can think of a few sites on the motorway network where services
have been planned since the very start of construction, a good
example is on the M27 at Fareham West, where the the westbound off
slip is nearly a mile long with further slip roads easily visible,
and the eastbound on slip is paralled by about half a mile of road
for access to the future services. Been there 30 years now so why do
the Nimbys always seem so surprised?

Is this why there is a long sliproad at the M25/A217 junction ?

"John Rowland" wrote in message
...
Paul Scott wrote:

I can think of a few sites on the motorway network where services
have been planned since the very start of construction, a good
example is on the M27 at Fareham West, where the the westbound off
slip is nearly a mile long with further slip roads easily visible,
and the eastbound on slip is paralled by about half a mile of road
for access to the future services. Been there 30 years now so why do
the Nimbys always seem so surprised?

Is this why there is a long sliproad at the M25/A217 junction ?

No, when the M25 was widened here, this slip was made
longer here to avoid it being too steep. (and perhaps to add
some queueing space for the traffic light controlled
roundabout it meets.

tim

John Rowland wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:

I can think of a few sites on the motorway network where services
have been planned since the very start of construction, a good
example is on the M27 at Fareham West, where the the westbound off
slip is nearly a mile long with further slip roads easily visible,
and the eastbound on slip is paralled by about half a mile of road
for access to the future services. Been there 30 years now so why
do the Nimbys always seem so surprised?

Is this why there is a long sliproad at the M25/A217 junction ?

No, that was done when the motorway was widened to 4 lanes in each
direction. It's to separate clockwise traffic leaving at that junction
from slow-moving vehicles on the hill, so they put the exit to the slip
road at the bottom of the hill.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:28:42 GMT, "Richard J."
wrote:

John Rowland wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:

I can think of a few sites on the motorway network where services
have been planned since the very start of construction, a good
example is on the M27 at Fareham West, where the the westbound off
slip is nearly a mile long with further slip roads easily visible,
and the eastbound on slip is paralled by about half a mile of road
for access to the future services. Been there 30 years now so why
do the Nimbys always seem so surprised?

Is this why there is a long sliproad at the M25/A217 junction ?

No, that was done when the motorway was widened to 4 lanes in each
direction. It's to separate clockwise traffic leaving at that junction
from slow-moving vehicles on the hill, so they put the exit to the slip
road at the bottom of the hill.

Thanks (and also to Tim for a slightly different version of it being
about gradients): I'd often wondered about this unusually long slip
road but never known the reason for it

Martin

Richard J. wrote:
John Rowland wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:

I can think of a few sites on the motorway network where services
have been planned since the very start of construction, a good
example is on the M27 at Fareham West, where the the westbound off
slip is nearly a mile long with further slip roads easily visible,
and the eastbound on slip is paralled by about half a mile of road
for access to the future services. Been there 30 years now so why
do the Nimbys always seem so surprised?

Is this why there is a long sliproad at the M25/A217 junction ?

No, that was done when the motorway was widened to 4 lanes in each
direction. It's to separate clockwise traffic leaving at that junction
from slow-moving vehicles on the hill, so they put the exit to the
slip road at the bottom of the hill.

Thanks, Richard and Tim.