On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:13:12 -0700, MIG
wrote:

I've seen a driver leave people in the rain at two in the morning when
a machine wasn't working.

I'm sure I remember hearing that they actually *can't* sell tickets
when in the central fare stages. Thus, what they're meant to do is
give you a free lift to the next stop and wait for you while buying a
ticket.

As for the railway, penalty and Standard Fare policies can only be
enforced where there is a means of buying a ticket. If the ticket
machine is not working, you can buy a discounted ticket on board or at
your destination. If they aren't following this rule, complain...

Neil

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:55:17 GMT,
Neil Williams wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:13:12 -0700, MIG
wrote:

I've seen a driver leave people in the rain at two in the morning when
a machine wasn't working.

I'm sure I remember hearing that they actually *can't* sell tickets
when in the central fare stages. Thus, what they're meant to do is
give you a free lift to the next stop and wait for you while buying a
ticket.

As for the railway, penalty and Standard Fare policies can only be
enforced where there is a means of buying a ticket. If the ticket
machine is not working, you can buy a discounted ticket on board or at
your destination. If they aren't following this rule, complain...

Out of interest, what is the situation where say, you only have a 20GBP
note and the ticket machine has a sign saying "Due to the number of
forgeries this machine no longer accepts 20 pound notes"?

Many, many years ago this happened to me - I'm pretty sure the guard on
the train was actually taking the **** because he would only sell me a
single and I wasn't even trying to buy a discounted fare, just a
standard return.

Tim.

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Last week I was at Hackney Wick station - no ticket office, touch-
screen ticket machines turned off both sides, no permit to travel/
fiddle machine. So I boarded the 14:5X EB train, no conductor-guard on
board checking/selling tickets, thence I merged with the LU system at
Stratford where I was valid and carried on for free. How much more
revenue are they losing? Do they care? There were posters up
announcing "Silverlink engineering work" in December 2007! Eh - I
don't think so!!!

The ticket machines (at least at Kentish Town West) have had the
London Overground software loaded. The ticket selling side is the
usual software used by (among others) FGW. The Oyster side lets you
top up via card in any 5p multiple, but you can't use Solo, Electron
or non-UK Maestro. I don't think a journey history is available.