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hundreds of bus stops in Central London have had the
new self service ticket machines installed in recent
weeks, it looks like the whole system will be cash
free by 2005/6. That's assuming TfL plan to put
machines at each & every stop for those who
still want to pay cash.


What about Hail & Ride buses?

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:38:51 +0100 John Rowland
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What about Hail & Ride buses?


Possibly convert the busier ones to fixed stop routes or even install
ticket machines on the buses themselves?

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John Rowland wrote:
What about Hail & Ride buses?

Will probably disappear altogether, despite their popularity, for
disability discrimination reasons.

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Colin McKenzie wrote:
John Rowland wrote:
What about Hail & Ride buses?

Will probably disappear altogether, despite their popularity, for
disability discrimination reasons.


In what way are they discriminatory? One such route near me is very popular
with elderly residents with limited walking ability because they don't have
to walk so far.
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"Richard J." wrote:
Colin McKenzie wrote:
John Rowland wrote:
What about Hail & Ride buses?

Will probably disappear altogether, despite their popularity, for
disability discrimination reasons.


In what way are they discriminatory? One such route near me is very popular
with elderly residents with limited walking ability because they don't have
to walk so far.
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This shows the foolishness of the disabled=wheelchair mind-set.
Make a bus with an entrance wide enough for a wheelchair, and lo! those
with dodgy knees and hips can no longer grab a rail and pull themselves
into the bus.

Make a wheelchair space between the doors and lo! hardly any seats on
the low-floor part of a double-decker for those who need them.

Prohibit 'hail and ride' because even with low-floor you can only get
wheelchairs onto buses if the bus is alongside a specially raised kerb
and lo! you have to walk along the bus route to a bus stop.

I suppose blind people have trouble with 'hail and ride' too.

But couldn't you have 'hail and ride' AND bus stops on the same road, so
that people could choose between a shorter walk and a proper bus stop
with seat, ticket machine etc?

Colin McKenzie


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