Where were the entrances to the old tunnels at Drayton park that used
to go to Finsbury? Are they completely buried or is there anything
still visible? Since the victoria line partially uses these does it
pass under drayton park and come back up or does it go around?

B2003

On 26 Oct, 21:49, Boltar wrote:
Where were the entrances to the old tunnels at Drayton park that used
to go to Finsbury? Are they completely buried or is there anything
still visible? Since the victoria line partially uses these does it
pass under drayton park and come back up or does it go around?

The original tunnel portals were destroyed when the GN electrification
link was put in. However, the severed end of one of the tunnels, with
iron lining segments, used to be clearly visible from trains between
Finsbury Park and Drayton Park.

There's an interesting bit about a visit to the disused tunnels at:

http://tinyurl.com/ysa7hl

On 26 Oct, 21:49, Boltar wrote:
Where were the entrances to the old tunnels at Drayton park that used
to go to Finsbury? Are they completely buried or is there anything
still visible? Since the victoria line partially uses these does it
pass under drayton park and come back up or does it go around?

The tunnel portals at Drayton are no more - they used to be between
the tracks, more or less where the trailing crossover is. I believe
there is a gate adjacent to the down road, next to the northern tip of
the crossover, which gives access to the old northbound tunnel.

The southbound Victoria Line passes directly beneath Drayton Park's
island platform, whilst the northbound road is slightly to the west,
and passes beneath the derelict area where the old GN&CR depot used to
be.


HTH.

BRB Class 465.

Boltar wrote:
Where were the entrances to the old tunnels at Drayton park that used
to go to Finsbury? Are they completely buried or is there anything
still visible? Since the victoria line partially uses these does it
pass under drayton park and come back up or does it go around?

You can clearly hear the Victoria Line trains from the Drayton Park
platforms.

On Oct 26, 10:27 pm, wrote:
The original tunnel portals were destroyed when the GN electrification
link was put in. However, the severed end of one of the tunnels, with
iron lining segments, used to be clearly visible from trains between
Finsbury Park and Drayton Park.

There's an interesting bit about a visit to the disused tunnels at:

http://tinyurl.com/ysa7hl

A very interesting page , just wish he'd taken a few more photos!

B2003

On Oct 27, 4:10 am, "John Rowland"
wrote:
Boltar wrote:
Where were the entrances to the old tunnels at Drayton park that used
to go to Finsbury? Are they completely buried or is there anything
still visible? Since the victoria line partially uses these does it
pass under drayton park and come back up or does it go around?

You can clearly hear the Victoria Line trains from the Drayton Park
platforms.

Does anybody have any idea of the depth of the Victoria Line at this
point. Would a Drayton Park Victoria Line station capable of serving
the Emirates Stadium be a better prospect than the £60 million pound
project suggested for Holloway Road?

On 27 Oct, 17:27, Mwmbwls wrote:

You can clearly hear the Victoria Line trains from the Drayton Park
platforms.

Does anybody have any idea of the depth of the Victoria Line at this
point. Would a Drayton Park Victoria Line station capable of serving
the Emirates Stadium be a better prospect than the £60 million pound
project suggested for Holloway Road?

Not especially deep. However:
1) building a new station would still cost a hell of a lot more than
£60m
2) the Victoria line is already operating at capacity, so a new
station wouldn't be a great idea.

[IMO, walking to FP, Arsenal or Highbury & Islington will do the fans
good]

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

On 28 Oct, 13:34, John B wrote:
On 27 Oct, 17:27, Mwmbwls wrote:

You can clearly hear the Victoria Line trains from the Drayton Park
platforms.

Does anybody have any idea of the depth of the Victoria Line at this
point. Would a Drayton Park Victoria Line station capable of serving
the Emirates Stadium be a better prospect than the £60 million pound
project suggested for Holloway Road?

Not especially deep. However:
1) building a new station would still cost a hell of a lot more than
£60m
2) the Victoria line is already operating at capacity, so a new
station wouldn't be a great idea.

[IMO, walking to FP, Arsenal or Highbury & Islington will do the fans
good]


I didn't realise the Vic line went right under Drayton Park, that's v
interesting - next time I'm there I'll listen out for it!

Regarding your square-bracketed sentiments, I quite agree - when it
comes to access to the Victoria line from the new stadium, the
existing stations at High & I and FP are perfectly adequate. There are
plans for improvements at H&I station and the streetscape around
Highbury Corner (see [1]). Whilst the layout at H&I isn't ideal in
that it deposits punters at the southernmost end of the Vic line
platforms, in practice it works fine on matchdays.

I am blissfully unaware of the matchday situation above ground at
Finsbury Park for fans heading north on FCC, though I'm led to believe
it's not ideal. I'll endeavour to head up there after a match in the
near future.

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[1] TfL page on proposed Highbury and Islington improvements
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/proj...nges/5324.aspx

I am blissfully unaware of the matchday situation above ground at
Finsbury Park for fans heading north on FCC, though I'm led to believe
it's not ideal. I'll endeavour to head up there after a match in the
near future.

It's awful, both coming into London prior to matches and getting away
after, and that's for me travelling to/from work, not even going to the
matches! The trains are only 4 car and have no room to join when they stop
at Potters Bar going south from about midday on match saturdays, the same
going north in the reverse direction. It's almost impossible to get off if
you're too far towards the end of the train The specials are all stops
so those from "outer" stations use the fasts instead.

I've brought this up with FCC a couple of times - usual response "we put
extra trains on" and "we cannot predict customer flow as many customers
have flexible tickets". They must be aware of the reality of it though.

It sucks - I drive to work at weekends now or when going in socially on
match days which is a waste - I have an annual ticket paid for already.

Cheers,
Dave