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Fans plead for Tube extension to stop Spurs moving home

31 October 2007
SPURS fans have issued a fresh call for the Victoria Line service to
be extended to Northumberland Park.

Some believe it would help keep the football club at White Hart Lane
amid continuing speculation it is eyeing a move to a new, larger-
capacity stadium and also help regenerate one of London's most
deprived wards.

Justin Hinchcliffe, chairman of Tottenham Conservatives and a Spurs
fan, said: "Not only is Spurs a much-loved local club, it's a major
employer in the area. Spurs may stay if their fans can easily get to
the stadium on match days."

He added: "We're calling on Mayor Livingstone to give the green light
to expand the Victoria Line to Northumberland Park, which Spurs and
local residents would really welcome."

The call comes hot on the heels of a London Assembly transport
committee report into transport to and from sports grounds, which
described the stadium as "poorly served" by rail and underground
services compared to other grounds.
See:

http://www.london.gov.uk/assembly/re...rts_travel.pdf

The committee has asked London Underground to draw up a business case
on extending the line.

Tottenham Hotspur Supporters Trust, which contributed to the
committee's report, has backed the calls as it braces itself for the
introduction of council parking restrictions around the ground from
January.

Bernie Kingsley, trust board member, said: "We made the case very
strongly that the Victoria Line should be extended to Northumberland
Park.

"The tracks are already there; basically, all they need to do is put a
platform there so people could get on and off. In term so of the CPZ
that is exactly what should be done."

A Transport for London spokesman said: "London Underground (LU) has
examined the possibility of extending the Victoria line to
Northumberland Park, and this has proved not to be a viable option.
The only viable location for a station at Northumberland Park is to
the east of the WAGN tracks, which would mean that either large crowds
would be using the level crossing or existing narrow footbridge, or
that a new footbridge would have to be constructed at great expense.
We will continue to work with the club to look at how supporters can
best travel to games.

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Fans plead for Tube extension to stop Spurs moving home

31 October 2007
SPURS fans have issued a fresh call for the Victoria Line service to
be extended to Northumberland Park.

Some believe it would help keep the football club at White Hart Lane
amid continuing speculation it is eyeing a move to a new, larger-
capacity stadium and also help regenerate one of London's most
deprived wards.

Justin Hinchcliffe, chairman of Tottenham Conservatives and a Spurs
fan, said: "Not only is Spurs a much-loved local club, it's a major
employer in the area. Spurs may stay if their fans can easily get to
the stadium on match days."

He added: "We're calling on Mayor Livingstone to give the green light
to expand the Victoria Line to Northumberland Park, which Spurs and
local residents would really welcome."

The call comes hot on the heels of a London Assembly transport
committee report into transport to and from sports grounds, which
described the stadium as "poorly served" by rail and underground
services compared to other grounds.
See:

http://www.london.gov.uk/assembly/re...rts_travel.pdf

The committee has asked London Underground to draw up a business case
on extending the line.

Tottenham Hotspur Supporters Trust, which contributed to the
committee's report, has backed the calls as it braces itself for the
introduction of council parking restrictions around the ground from
January.

Bernie Kingsley, trust board member, said: "We made the case very
strongly that the Victoria Line should be extended to Northumberland
Park.

"The tracks are already there; basically, all they need to do is put a
platform there so people could get on and off. In term so of the CPZ
that is exactly what should be done."

A Transport for London spokesman said: "London Underground (LU) has
examined the possibility of extending the Victoria line to
Northumberland Park, and this has proved not to be a viable option.
The only viable location for a station at Northumberland Park is to
the east of the WAGN tracks, which would mean that either large crowds
would be using the level crossing or existing narrow footbridge, or
that a new footbridge would have to be constructed at great expense.
We will continue to work with the club to look at how supporters can
best travel to games.

unquote

Good grief! If Justin Hinchcliffe is their best spokesman then Spurs are
doomed!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Mwmbwls wrote:
http://www.hornseyjournal.co.uk/cont...A36%3A27%3A240
quote

Fans plead for Tube extension to stop Spurs moving home

31 October 2007
SPURS fans have issued a fresh call for the Victoria Line service to
be extended to Northumberland Park.

Some believe it would help keep the football club at White Hart Lane
amid continuing speculation it is eyeing a move to a new, larger-
capacity stadium and also help regenerate one of London's most
deprived wards.

Justin Hinchcliffe, chairman of Tottenham Conservatives and a Spurs
fan, said: "Not only is Spurs a much-loved local club, it's a major
employer in the area. Spurs may stay if their fans can easily get to
the stadium on match days."

He added: "We're calling on Mayor Livingstone to give the green light
to expand the Victoria Line to Northumberland Park, which Spurs and
local residents would really welcome."

The call comes hot on the heels of a London Assembly transport
committee report into transport to and from sports grounds, which
described the stadium as "poorly served" by rail and underground
services compared to other grounds.
See:

http://www.london.gov.uk/assembly/re...rts_travel.pdf

The committee has asked London Underground to draw up a business case
on extending the line.

Tottenham Hotspur Supporters Trust, which contributed to the
committee's report, has backed the calls as it braces itself for the
introduction of council parking restrictions around the ground from
January.

Bernie Kingsley, trust board member, said: "We made the case very
strongly that the Victoria Line should be extended to Northumberland
Park.

"The tracks are already there; basically, all they need to do is put a
platform there so people could get on and off. In term so of the CPZ
that is exactly what should be done."

A Transport for London spokesman said: "London Underground (LU) has
examined the possibility of extending the Victoria line to
Northumberland Park, and this has proved not to be a viable option.
The only viable location for a station at Northumberland Park is to
the east of the WAGN tracks, which would mean that either large crowds
would be using the level crossing or existing narrow footbridge, or
that a new footbridge would have to be constructed at great expense.
We will continue to work with the club to look at how supporters can
best travel to games.

unquote

Since Spurs are looking to enlarge their ground anyway, a new Ashburton
Grove-sized stadium would just about fit on the allotments and bus depot at
Marsh Lane. Call the new stadium Northumberland Park, so that everyone knows
which mainline station and tube station are best. The new tube station, the
A1055 and the stadium would all be on the same side of the railway.

On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Mwmbwls quoted:

A Transport for London spokesman said: "London Underground (LU) has
examined the possibility of extending the Victoria line to
Northumberland Park, and this has proved not to be a viable option. The
only viable location for a station at Northumberland Park is to the east
of the WAGN tracks, which would mean that either large crowds would be
using the level crossing or existing narrow footbridge, or that a new
footbridge would have to be constructed at great expense.

How great an expense could a new footbridge possibly be? Are TfL assuming
they'd be paying for it? How much dough could be extracted from Spurs? If
it meant they could stay where they were rather than moving to a whole new
site, surely they'd be willing to pay quite a bit for it?

How would a Northumberland Park spur (excuse the pun) affect Vic
operations? The junction is between Seven Sisters and Tottenham Hale,
right? Would this mean diverting trains away from Tottenham and
Walthamstow? Or are there enough Seven Sisters reversers to cover the
branch, in terms of paths? Could you run Seven Sisters - Northumberland
Park shuttles? Either way, you'd need more trains, right? Is the junction
flat or graded? Are there two tubes to the depot, or one?

tom

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Some believe it would help keep the football club at White Hart Lane
amid continuing speculation it is eyeing a move to a new, larger-
capacity stadium and also help regenerate one of London's most
deprived wards.

Justin Hinchcliffe, chairman of Tottenham Conservatives and a Spurs
fan, said: "Not only is Spurs a much-loved local club, it's a major
employer in the area. Spurs may stay if their fans can easily get to
the stadium on match days."


Typical overprivileged nitpicking Spurs fans - don't know they're born.

White Hart Lane station is not far from the Stadium, and there are another
three or four rail and tube stations within feasible walking distance.

Try going somewhere like Stoke or Coventry or Shrewsbury, where the ground
is miles away from any kind of railway service, on a regular basis.

BTN

In article ,
(Tom Anderson) wrote:

How would a Northumberland Park spur (excuse the pun) affect Vic
operations? The junction is between Seven Sisters and Tottenham
Hale, right? Would this mean diverting trains away from Tottenham
and Walthamstow? Or are there enough Seven Sisters reversers to
cover the branch, in terms of paths? Could you run Seven Sisters -
Northumberland Park shuttles? Either way, you'd need more trains,
right? Is the junction flat or graded? Are there two tubes to the
depot, or one?

Yes, maybe, not necessarily, perhaps, maybe, graded, two.

More fully, there are three platforms at Seven Sisters, one serving the
depot branch. Maybe a shuttle would get in the way of depot movements
though.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Sir Benjamin Nunn wrote:

"Mwmbwls" wrote in message
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Justin Hinchcliffe, chairman of Tottenham Conservatives and a Spurs
fan, said: "Not only is Spurs a much-loved local club, it's a major
employer in the area. Spurs may stay if their fans can easily get to
the stadium on match days."

Typical overprivileged nitpicking Spurs fans - don't know they're born.

White Hart Lane station is not far from the Stadium, and there are another
three or four rail and tube stations within feasible walking distance.

Try going somewhere like Stoke or Coventry or Shrewsbury, where the ground
is miles away from any kind of railway service, on a regular basis.

But somewhere with rather more parking?

tom

--
102 FX 6 (goblins)

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
. li...
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Mwmbwls quoted:

A Transport for London spokesman said: "London Underground (LU) has
examined the possibility of extending the Victoria line to Northumberland
Park, and this has proved not to be a viable option. The only viable
location for a station at Northumberland Park is to the east of the WAGN
tracks, which would mean that either large crowds would be using the
level crossing or existing narrow footbridge, or that a new footbridge
would have to be constructed at great expense.

How great an expense could a new footbridge possibly be? Are TfL assuming
they'd be paying for it? How much dough could be extracted from Spurs? If
it meant they could stay where they were rather than moving to a whole new
site, surely they'd be willing to pay quite a bit for it?

I have no idea why Spurs want to move, but I would
doubt that 'insufficient transport links' is the reason.

tim

On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:51:26 -0000, "tim....."
wrote:


"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
.li...
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Mwmbwls quoted:

A Transport for London spokesman said: "London Underground (LU) has
examined the possibility of extending the Victoria line to Northumberland
Park, and this has proved not to be a viable option. The only viable
location for a station at Northumberland Park is to the east of the WAGN
tracks, which would mean that either large crowds would be using the
level crossing or existing narrow footbridge, or that a new footbridge
would have to be constructed at great expense.

How great an expense could a new footbridge possibly be? Are TfL assuming
they'd be paying for it? How much dough could be extracted from Spurs? If
it meant they could stay where they were rather than moving to a whole new
site, surely they'd be willing to pay quite a bit for it?

I have no idea why Spurs want to move, but I would
doubt that 'insufficient transport links' is the reason.

I suspect that the capacity being only 36k would be the reason.

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
h.li...
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Sir Benjamin Nunn wrote:

"Mwmbwls" wrote in message
ups.com...

Justin Hinchcliffe, chairman of Tottenham Conservatives and a Spurs fan,
said: "Not only is Spurs a much-loved local club, it's a major employer
in the area. Spurs may stay if their fans can easily get to the stadium
on match days."

Typical overprivileged nitpicking Spurs fans - don't know they're born.

White Hart Lane station is not far from the Stadium, and there are
another
three or four rail and tube stations within feasible walking distance.

Try going somewhere like Stoke or Coventry or Shrewsbury, where the
ground
is miles away from any kind of railway service, on a regular basis.

But somewhere with rather more parking?

Which is the point.

It isn't the fans who want improved PT to the ground so that
they don't have to drive there.

It's the LA that has to build the roads to deal with all this
extra traffic.

tim