On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:33:43 -0000, "Nathan" wrote:


Yes, FCC (as it is now) has access rights to St Pancras station,
normally only used when the tunnels are shut.


FCC may have station rights but, i'm told, FCC drivers will not be
maintaining route knowledge into St.P so in a very short time all FCC
drivers will not be able to go in there.

Do they have any route knowledge to maintain? As far as I know FCC
have never actually operated into the present St P MML station.

trains will go when Moorgate is closed in 2008 and where they will go in the
meantime if anything closes central london. I know its not ideal but Kentish
Town is more than likely the answer as you can use Platforms 3 and 4 to
terminate in when there is through-london running and in the event of a
total london block you can use all four platforms to terminate in. This
would be more capacity than St. P as there is only 4 platforms to share with
MML who have amazingly long turn-around times.



--
Peter Lawrence

On Nov 17, 5:59 pm, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
Do they have any route knowledge to maintain? As far as I know FCC
have never actually operated into the present St P MML station.

During the blockade to create the station box for St Pancras Midland
City in 2004/2005, services from Bedford terminated at platforms at St
Pancras, not sure which platforms exactly, presumably the same as the
MML ones at the time (and which are to be re-used for CTRL-DS).

--
Abi

Abigail Brady wrote:
On Nov 17, 5:59 pm, "Peter Lawrence" wrote:
Do they have any route knowledge to maintain? As far as I know FCC
have never actually operated into the present St P MML station.

During the blockade to create the station box for St Pancras Midland
City in 2004/2005, services from Bedford terminated at platforms at St
Pancras, not sure which platforms exactly, presumably the same as the
MML ones at the time (and which are to be re-used for CTRL-DS).

--
Abi

Before 1 April 2006 Thameslink services were run by Thameslink
(technically Thameslink Rail Ltd). During the blockade, platforms 8 and
9 were used by Midland Mainline (now Eurostar platforms), platforms 11
to 13 were used by Thameslink (now CTRL-DS platforms), and platform 10
was shared between the two (now a Eurostar platform).

While preliminary Thameslink Programme works take place, First Capital
Connect services from the north will be directed to the MML platforms at
London St Pancras during the weekends between 5 January 2008 and 23
March 2008 inclusive.

In message
, at
12:13:16 on Sat, 17 Nov 2007, Abigail Brady
remarked:
Do they have any route knowledge to maintain? As far as I know FCC
have never actually operated into the present St P MML station.

During the blockade to create the station box for St Pancras Midland
City in 2004/2005, services from Bedford terminated at platforms at St
Pancras, not sure which platforms exactly, presumably the same as the
MML ones at the time (and which are to be re-used for CTRL-DS).

That's right, the eastern platforms. Since then the track leading to
them has been torn up and re-laid towards the western platforms.

So the route knowledge is destroyed.
--
Roland Perry

Tom Anderson wrote:

Also, i noticed that the right turn out of Judd Street (as you come
north up to Euston Road, opposite Midland Road), is now permitted.

As of yesterday, no it isn't.