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On Nov 11, 5:25 pm, Mizter T wrote:
One big question mark over Oyster PAYG acceptance on London Overground
has been how fares north of Hatch End - i.e. outside the 6 London
zones - will be handled.

One incredibly obvious place to look, which I've only just thought of
(d'oh!), is of course the TfL "Single fare finder" he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/tickets/faresandtickets/2007/farefinder/


My playing around suggests that Carpenders Park is in Zone B, Bushey
and Watford High Street are in Zone C and Watford Junction is in Zone
D.

With that zoning I'd expect[1] that the WJ-Euston fast train could be
pulled into the PAYG system without significantly affecting the
revenue generated.

As I reported elsewhe

"I have a hard copy LO timetable booklet here, that says London Midland do
accept PAYG between Euston and Watford Junction, however it also says
Southern accept PAYG between Clapham Junction and _Willesden_ Junction,
which is odd coz their route doesn't go there..."

Unfortunately the web version splits the timetables into 4 files and doesn't
include the cover notes...

The new ATOC/NR Oyster PAYG leaflet (paper version available at LU & Tube
stations) also shows Watford Junction down to Clapham Junction as being
available for PAYG, apparently platform notices confirm this .

Paul

On Nov 12, 10:44 am, "Paul Scott"
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On Nov 11, 5:25 pm, Mizter T wrote:
One big question mark over Oyster PAYG acceptance on London Overground
has been how fares north of Hatch End - i.e. outside the 6 London
zones - will be handled.

One incredibly obvious place to look, which I've only just thought of
(d'oh!), is of course the TfL "Single fare finder" he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/tickets/faresandtickets/2007/farefinder/

My playing around suggests that Carpenders Park is in Zone B, Bushey
and Watford High Street are in Zone C and Watford Junction is in Zone
D.

With that zoning I'd expect[1] that the WJ-Euston fast train could be
pulled into the PAYG system without significantly affecting the
revenue generated.

As I reported elsewhe

"I have a hard copy LO timetable booklet here, that says London Midland do
accept PAYG between Euston and Watford Junction, however it also says
Southern accept PAYG between Clapham Junction and _Willesden_ Junction,
which is odd coz their route doesn't go there..."

Unfortunately the web version splits the timetables into 4 files and doesn't
include the cover notes...

The new ATOC/NR Oyster PAYG leaflet (paper version available at LU & Tube
stations) also shows Watford Junction down to Clapham Junction as being
available for PAYG, apparently platform notices confirm this .

I asked at the (silverlink) Euston ticket office on Thursday evening
and I was told that PAYG would not be valid to WJ on the Midland
trains.

Having said that, getting the information from the horses mouth so to
speak isn't reliable.

I wanted to know whether I could use my WJ-London Terminals to
Clapham Junction. The staff at WJ said Yes and No depending on who I
asked. The guard on the train when I said "I've got a ticket here but
could I use this", showing him my gold card said "I don't see why
not". The general concensus here from those in the know was "No I
couldn't use it" (or at least only as far as willesden junction (I
think) and I'd need an extension)

Tim.

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On Nov 12, 10:44 am, "Paul Scott"
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The new ATOC/NR Oyster PAYG leaflet (paper version available at LU & Tube
stations) also shows Watford Junction down to Clapham Junction as being
available for PAYG, apparently platform notices confirm this .

I asked at the (silverlink) Euston ticket office on Thursday evening
and I was told that PAYG would not be valid to WJ on the Midland
trains.

Having said that, getting the information from the horses mouth so to
speak isn't reliable.

I wanted to know whether I could use my WJ-London Terminals to
Clapham Junction.

Thats an entirely different subject really, more suited to a routing guide
question, assuming you're talking about a NR point to point season.

Clapham Junction isn't a London Terminal for such purposes, I think its
previously been suggested that routes towards London are only valid to the
'appropriate' London Terminal, so you can't say you are going to Waterloo or
Victoria and get off early either...

Paul S

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:15:43 -0000, Paul Scott wrote:

I wanted to know whether I could use my WJ-London Terminals to
Clapham Junction.

Thats an entirely different subject really, more suited to a routing guide
question, assuming you're talking about a NR point to point season.

Clapham Junction isn't a London Terminal for such purposes, I think its
previously been suggested that routes towards London are only valid to the
'appropriate' London Terminal, so you can't say you are going to Waterloo or
Victoria and get off early either...

Vauxhall (via Clapham Junction) is a valid London Terminal for this
route, but not Victoria or Waterloo.