On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Mizter T wrote:

On 27 Nov, 10:02, "Paul Scott" wrote:
"Mizter T" wrote in message

...

Tom Anderson wrote:

So the line can have the name the South London Atlantic Line, and can
thus sport a South Atlantic theme. I'm thinking... er.. the Falklands,
so mosaics of Romping soldiers...

Yomping ITYF - unless you have a different idea of soldiers activities?

Err... err... err... no comment!

I'm not quite sure how I managed to get so discombobulated there. I'm
more of a tabbing man I guess - I'm less au fait with the strange
phraseology of these amphibious warriors.

And I shall correct myself before anyone else does - soldiers don't
yomp, marines do.

That was a movie, wasn't it - Red Coats Can't Yomp?

Soldiers apparently 'tab'; the advance from San Carlos Water to Port
Stanley was made by a joint force of Royal Marines and Paras, and thus was
both a yomp and a tab. According to the ever-reliable wikipedia.

tom

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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote:

I anticipate achieving the former completely, and making a good fist of
the latter - if it's as good as the way the existing London Connections
map deals with the District and Metropolitan lines (said map suggests
you can get trains from Amersham to Northwood and Richmond to Edgware
Road), i'll be happy.

Doesn't the current map show Wimbleware trains running through Earl's
Court separately and connecting to the Wimbledon branch to the south?
The tube map certainly doesn't show Richmond to Edgeware Road as a
possible direct service.

On the tube map, yes, but not on the London Connections. I don't know if
this is an oversight, or omitted for simplicity.

tom

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On 27 Nov, 10:39, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Richard J. wrote:
Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007, Mizter T wrote:

(Moving slightly off-topic...) Indeed the "South London Line" the
official designation of the actual running lines (i.e. the tracks)
until (I think) the late 80's when they were partially renamed the
"Atlantic Lines", when a junction went in between Peckham Rye and
Denmark Hill (Crofton Rd Jn) which allowed trains to switch over from
the Chatham lines.

Is the Chatham line even the best way to get to Chatham? Is
some route via Dartford not faster?

The London Chatham & Dover Railway never went anywhere very fast, but
AFAIK it never went to Dartford.

No, but the South Eastern Railway did, via the North Kent line through
Dartford.

Although looking at some timetable type info, it looks like this line is
currently used for stopping services, so the answer to my question is
"no".

tom


I doubt if it's ever been quicker via Dartford. There's a late night
service that goes via Dartford to Victoria fairly non-stop (apparently
via sidcup, I infer from the route code). Nothing non-stop in the
opposite direction. Plus the line speeds are probably a lot lower.

On 27 Nov, 15:21, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Mizter T wrote:
On 27 Nov, 10:02, "Paul Scott" wrote:
"Mizter T" wrote in message

...

Tom Anderson wrote:

So the line can have the name the South London Atlantic Line, and can
thus sport a South Atlantic theme. I'm thinking... er.. the Falklands,
so mosaics of Romping soldiers...

Yomping ITYF - unless you have a different idea of soldiers activities?

Err... err... err... no comment!

I'm not quite sure how I managed to get so discombobulated there. I'm
more of a tabbing man I guess - I'm less au fait with the strange
phraseology of these amphibious warriors.

And I shall correct myself before anyone else does - soldiers don't
yomp, marines do.

That was a movie, wasn't it - Red Coats Can't Yomp?

Soldiers apparently 'tab'; the advance from San Carlos Water to Port
Stanley was made by a joint force of Royal Marines and Paras, and thus was
both a yomp and a tab. According to the ever-reliable wikipedia.

tom


Do keep up at the back there - hence my comments about me "being more
of a tabbing man".

Though to be fair I don't actually think soldiers ever adapt tab to be
used in the Gerund form - i.e. no -ing as in tabbING, so "we were on a
tab" - correct, but "we were tabbing" - incorrect. The only reference
to "tabbing" in this context that I managed to find during a quick
internet search was made by a Telegraph journalist, so I reckon it's
not a phrase that's used. I'll try and remember to ask a military man
I know about this next time I see him.

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Clive. wrote:

In message , Tom Anderson
writes
No, maybe not. Where did you see this map?

Bristol.

Hmm.

tom

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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, wrote:

Surely a lot of London's NR lines pretty much name themselves (the
Shenfield line, the Watford line, the Lea Valley line etc). It's only
those awkward chaps in south London where it gets complicated.

AIUI, every line in London has a name. Quail has names for them, anyway!
The trouble is that they're sometimes a bit random, and what you might
think of as a line has different names on different bits, reflecting how
it came to be.

Shame really - I suspect if the lines had well recognized names people
would be a lot less afraid of south London than they are now. 'cept for
the gun crime, of course.

And the baby-eating.

tom

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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Mizter T wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote:

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Mizter T wrote:

(snip)

Or, as an alternative, how about the "Frontline", which was the old
nickname of the nearby Railton Road. Said nickname is often attributed
to the times of the '81 riots, but it actually originates back in the
70's as part of the road at least was a slightly edgy place. No-one
calls it that now, though there is an off-licence that still goes by
that name!

That name's also been used for Amhurst Road in Hackney, for much the same
reasons. This would make that a good name for the extended ELL, if it ever
gets round to linking these two delightful neighbourhoods.

Your anti-orbital rail prejudices bubbling up again Tom?! As well as
having a downer on Brixton and Hackney, it would seem...

Where am i being down? I love Hackney! I don't know Brixton terribly well,
but it seems pretty interesting. Beats the **** out of a Hampstead or a
Richmond with a wooden stick any day of the week.

Although if you did link them with a railway line, kevlar seat backs would
be a sensible feature of the trains.

tom

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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Mizter T wrote:

On 27 Nov, 15:21, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Mizter T wrote:
On 27 Nov, 10:02, "Paul Scott" wrote:
"Mizter T" wrote in message
...

So the line can have the name the South London Atlantic Line, and
can thus sport a South Atlantic theme. I'm thinking... er.. the
Falklands, so mosaics of Romping soldiers...

Yomping ITYF - unless you have a different idea of soldiers activities?

Err... err... err... no comment!

I'm not quite sure how I managed to get so discombobulated there. I'm
more of a tabbing man I guess - I'm less au fait with the strange
phraseology of these amphibious warriors.

And I shall correct myself before anyone else does - soldiers don't
yomp, marines do.

That was a movie, wasn't it - Red Coats Can't Yomp?

Soldiers apparently 'tab'; the advance from San Carlos Water to Port
Stanley was made by a joint force of Royal Marines and Paras, and thus
was both a yomp and a tab. According to the ever-reliable wikipedia.

Do keep up at the back there - hence my comments about me "being more
of a tabbing man".

Good lord man, do you expect me to actually read the whole of your posts?

Though to be fair I don't actually think soldiers ever adapt tab to be
used in the Gerund form - i.e. no -ing as in tabbING, so "we were on a
tab" - correct, but "we were tabbing" - incorrect. The only reference to
"tabbing" in this context that I managed to find during a quick internet
search was made by a Telegraph journalist, so I reckon it's not a phrase
that's used. I'll try and remember to ask a military man I know about
this next time I see him.

That's rather interesting. If the suggested etymology from 'tactical
advance to battle' is right, that would sort of explain it; like how you
say "going AWOL" rather than "AWOLling".

tom

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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:55:01 -0000, Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:

I anticipate achieving the former completely, and making a good fist of
the latter - if it's as good as the way the existing London Connections
map deals with the District and Metropolitan lines (said map suggests you
can get trains from Amersham to Northwood and Richmond to Edgware Road),
i'll be happy.

Doesn't the current map show Wimbleware trains running through Earl's Court
separately and connecting to the Wimbledon branch to the south? The tube map
certainly doesn't show Richmond to Edgeware Road as a possible direct
service.

Correct. It does still, however, show Olympia to Edgware Road as an
apparent through service.

MIG wrote:

There are currently two regular routes from London Bridge to Victoria,
but in the recent past the "outer" route was to go via Peckham,
Streatham, Wimbledon, Sutton, Selhurst, Balham etc, ie a partial
figure of eight.

A piece of eight?