Ian Jelf wrote:
Where are you looking at the opening time of the shop, Ian?
http://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/visiting/106.aspx says until 21:00 on Fridays.

That was where I was looking and I'm absolutely certain that that has
been altered since I looked the other day. Strange. Maybe they were
initially just posting the existing times for the shop, although above
it they had inserted the new opening times for the Museum.

Google's cache backs you up

Cached copy from 19/11/07 - http://preview.tinyurl.com/33epg8

[Crossposted to uk.railway]
"Mizter T" wrote
Entry is £8, "Seniors" (presumably 65s and over) are £6.50, students
are £5.00, and following in the recent trend under-16s are free

Or should "Seniors" be 60s and over, in line with the Senior
Railcard? Since achieving that age, I have discussed this point at a
number of transport-related (e.g. preserved railway) locations. Some
sensibly say that they leave it to the individual visitor's
discretion. The most inventive solution was at the Listowel
Monorailway, where they charged me an amount midway between the full
and reduced rates!

At 12:30:19 on Sun, 25 Nov 2007 John Salmon opined:-

[Crossposted to uk.railway]
"Mizter T" wrote
Entry is £8, "Seniors" (presumably 65s and over) are £6.50, students
are £5.00, and following in the recent trend under-16s are free

Or should "Seniors" be 60s and over, in line with the Senior
Railcard? Since achieving that age, I have discussed this point at a
number of transport-related (e.g. preserved railway) locations. Some
sensibly say that they leave it to the individual visitor's
discretion. The most inventive solution was at the Listowel
Monorailway, where they charged me an amount midway between the full
and reduced rates!


According to another message in this thread:-

There is an Oyster pad on the ticket counter. I didn't ask about using
it. Freedom passes get you free entry which might be what it's for.

So, for a senior with a freedom pass, is it £6.50 or free?
--
Thoss

On 25 Nov, 13:06, thoss wrote:
At 12:30:19 on Sun, 25 Nov 2007 John Salmon opined:-

[Crossposted to uk.railway]
"Mizter T" wrote
Entry is £8, "Seniors" (presumably 65s and over) are £6.50, students
are £5.00, and following in the recent trend under-16s are free

Or should "Seniors" be 60s and over, in line with the Senior
Railcard? Since achieving that age, I have discussed this point at a
number of transport-related (e.g. preserved railway) locations. Some
sensibly say that they leave it to the individual visitor's
discretion. The most inventive solution was at the Listowel
Monorailway, where they charged me an amount midway between the full
and reduced rates!

According to another message in this thread:-

There is an Oyster pad on the ticket counter. I didn't ask about using
it. Freedom passes get you free entry which might be what it's for.

So, for a senior with a freedom pass, is it £6.50 or free?


Always best to get it from the horses mouth:
http://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/visiting/106.aspx

"Entry fee. Adults £8, Seniors £6.50 Students;£5.00, Freedom Pass
holders and Under 16's free; Free"

So it's free entry for Freedom Pass holders, and £6.50 for "Seniors"
who don't hold a Freedom Pass (i.e. someone 60+ and not a resident of
Greater London). Whether "Seniors" are 60+ or 65+ I don't know.

There's nothing in the text that excludes disabled Freedom Pass
holders from getting free entry either.

At 06:09:27 on Sun, 25 Nov 2007 Mizter T opined:-

On 25 Nov, 13:06, thoss wrote:
At 12:30:19 on Sun, 25 Nov 2007 John Salmon opined:-

[Crossposted to uk.railway]
"Mizter T" wrote
Entry is £8, "Seniors" (presumably 65s and over) are £6.50, students
are £5.00, and following in the recent trend under-16s are free

Or should "Seniors" be 60s and over, in line with the Senior
Railcard? Since achieving that age, I have discussed this point at a
number of transport-related (e.g. preserved railway) locations. Some
sensibly say that they leave it to the individual visitor's
discretion. The most inventive solution was at the Listowel
Monorailway, where they charged me an amount midway between the full
and reduced rates!

According to another message in this thread:-

There is an Oyster pad on the ticket counter. I didn't ask about using
it. Freedom passes get you free entry which might be what it's for.

So, for a senior with a freedom pass, is it £6.50 or free?


Always best to get it from the horses mouth:
http://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/visiting/106.aspx

"Entry fee. Adults £8, Seniors £6.50 Students;£5.00, Freedom Pass
holders and Under 16's free; Free"

So it's free entry for Freedom Pass holders, and £6.50 for "Seniors"
who don't hold a Freedom Pass (i.e. someone 60+ and not a resident of
Greater London). Whether "Seniors" are 60+ or 65+ I don't know.

There's nothing in the text that excludes disabled Freedom Pass
holders from getting free entry either.

Thank you.
--
Thoss

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:09:27 -0800 (PST), Mizter T
wrote:

On 25 Nov, 13:06, thoss wrote:
At 12:30:19 on Sun, 25 Nov 2007 John Salmon opined:-

[Crossposted to uk.railway]
"Mizter T" wrote
Entry is £8, "Seniors" (presumably 65s and over) are £6.50, students
are £5.00, and following in the recent trend under-16s are free

Or should "Seniors" be 60s and over, in line with the Senior
Railcard? Since achieving that age, I have discussed this point at a
number of transport-related (e.g. preserved railway) locations. Some
sensibly say that they leave it to the individual visitor's
discretion. The most inventive solution was at the Listowel
Monorailway, where they charged me an amount midway between the full
and reduced rates!

According to another message in this thread:-

There is an Oyster pad on the ticket counter. I didn't ask about using
it. Freedom passes get you free entry which might be what it's for.

So, for a senior with a freedom pass, is it £6.50 or free?


Always best to get it from the horses mouth:
http://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/visiting/106.aspx

"Entry fee. Adults £8, Seniors £6.50 Students;£5.00, Freedom Pass
holders and Under 16's free; Free"

So it's free entry for Freedom Pass holders, and £6.50 for "Seniors"
who don't hold a Freedom Pass (i.e. someone 60+ and not a resident of
Greater London). Whether "Seniors" are 60+ or 65+ I don't know.

There's nothing in the text that excludes disabled Freedom Pass
holders from getting free entry either.

And where is the definition of a 'Senior' which was one of the issues
raised? The original poster thinks it is 65. You are saying it is
60. The terms and conditions appear to relate to use of the website
rather than the museum itself.

On 25 Nov, 12:30, "John Salmon" wrote:
[Crossposted to uk.railway]
"Mizter T" wrote
Entry is £8, "Seniors" (presumably 65s and over) are £6.50, students
are £5.00, and following in the recent trend under-16s are free

Or should "Seniors" be 60s and over, in line with the Senior
Railcard? Since achieving that age, I have discussed this point at a
number of transport-related (e.g. preserved railway) locations. Some
sensibly say that they leave it to the individual visitor's
discretion. The most inventive solution was at the Listowel
Monorailway, where they charged me an amount midway between the full
and reduced rates!

Hmm, might be worth becoming a Friend, then- according to the leaflets
that were out last weekend, that's £20 a year and free entry.

In message
,
Ianigsy writes
On 25 Nov, 12:30, "John Salmon" wrote:
[Crossposted to uk.railway]
"Mizter T" wrote
Entry is £8, "Seniors" (presumably 65s and over) are £6.50, students
are £5.00, and following in the recent trend under-16s are free

Or should "Seniors" be 60s and over, in line with the Senior
Railcard? Since achieving that age, I have discussed this point at a
number of transport-related (e.g. preserved railway) locations. Some
sensibly say that they leave it to the individual visitor's
discretion. The most inventive solution was at the Listowel
Monorailway, where they charged me an amount midway between the full
and reduced rates!

Hmm, might be worth becoming a Friend, then- according to the leaflets
that were out last weekend, that's £20 a year and free entry.

And 10% off in the shop!
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

In message , Ian Jelf
writes

Or should "Seniors" be 60s and over, in line with the Senior
Railcard? Since achieving that age, I have discussed this point at a
number of transport-related (e.g. preserved railway) locations. Some
sensibly say that they leave it to the individual visitor's
discretion. The most inventive solution was at the Listowel
Monorailway, where they charged me an amount midway between the full
and reduced rates!

Hmm, might be worth becoming a Friend, then- according to the leaflets
that were out last weekend, that's £20 a year and free entry.

And 10% off in the shop!

As do staff.
--
Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
(please use the reply to address for email)

On 25 Nov, 12:30, "John Salmon" wrote:
[Crossposted to uk.railway]
"Mizter T" wrote
Entry is £8, "Seniors" (presumably 65s and over) are £6.50, students
are £5.00, and following in the recent trend under-16s are free

Or should "Seniors" be 60s and over, in line with the Senior
Railcard? Since achieving that age, I have discussed this point at a
number of transport-related (e.g. preserved railway) locations. Some
sensibly say that they leave it to the individual visitor's
discretion. The most inventive solution was at the Listowel
Monorailway, where they charged me an amount midway between the full
and reduced rates!

To change the subject a little, some impressions about the content.
Starts off very well, and then finally ends up going downhill.....in a
big way.

Top floor is excellent. Large scale exhibits comprise a Sedan Chair,
the reproduction Shillibere Bus (which you can sit in!), a Thomas
Tilling Horse Bus, and a restored Horse tram. All in a diorama format
with horses and period people.

The Mezzanine Level is equally good, with a fine model dioramas on the
construction of the underground, the Beyer Peacock locomotive (you can
climb on part of the footplate), the Ashbury's carriage (you can sit
in one of the compartments), 'John Hampden' (the Metropolitan electric
locomotive), and a pre-war electric set, together with some
interesting displays on 'Metroland'.

The rest of the displays on the tube system are good, with a 'tupenny
tube' electric loco, and a padded cell, carriage (that you can sit
in). Much is made of the life and times of Frank Pick, and there is
another example of tube stock to explore.

Then.....disaster strikes. There has been an immense cull of the
previous buses and trams. One electric tram, not representative of
either LCC or LPTB. One trolleybus. An 'Old Bill' type General bus,
and a taxicab. On the other side of the hall, a Greenline coach, a
Routemaster, and a front entrance bus. So where are the rest?
Apparently, at their large exhibits store. which is sometimes open to
the public.

So, given top and mezzanine levels, what has happened to the rest of
the space? Well, there's a cafe/picnic area (in addition to the cafe
in the new wing), a chidren's play area, but most of the space is
given over to a lot of rather fatuous displays about the future of
transport in London, most of which take up far too much space.

Why? The average public, including the children, would much prefer to
see more vehicles. A triumph of the designer over the curator,
methinks....

Dr. Barry Worthington