On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Sky Rider wrote:

Roland Perry wrote:

And what of platform Zero at KX?

Platform 0 (or rather Platform Y as it is now called) is going ahead as
planned.

Just don't ask about Platform X.

Really, don't ask.

tom

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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Mr Thant wrote:

http://londonconnections.blogspot.co...s-novelty.html

*clapclapclap*

Excellent!

Something like this would actually be rather helpful if posted outside the
station - and equivalents at all other complicated stations. God knows how
many times i've been in the bowels of Euston and had some poor sod turn
from the tube map and ask me "so where do i go to get to Angel ...".

tom

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In article ,
Tom Anderson wrote:
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Sky Rider wrote:

Roland Perry wrote:

And what of platform Zero at KX?

Platform 0 (or rather Platform Y as it is now called) is going ahead as
planned.

Just don't ask about Platform X.

Really, don't ask.

And then there's platform f(x) which is for advanced pupils at Hogwarts ...

Nick
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 05:34:48 -0800 (PST), Mr Thant
wrote:

I thought people here might be interested in the diagram I've made of
King's Cross and St Pancras, showing the passageways and routes around
the whole complex in the style of the tube map (I know a proper
floorplan would have been much more useful, but that turned out to be
way too hard). Links and a bit more explanation are on my blog:

http://londonconnections.blogspot.co...s-novelty.html
U

That's really neat.

The only bit I am still confused about is really what is happening with
the network of new and existing connecting tunnels between the KX
T/Link, Vic, Picc and Northern lines. I know we have the temporary link
diverging off the old T/L to Picc line corridor. However there appear to
be additional excavations occurring at the junction with the staircase
from the Vic Line as well as something going on in the closed section of
the old tunnel *and* more excavations where the temporary tunnel arrives
on the Picc Line platforms.

While I understand the basic idea is to provide new links to the new
Northern ticket hall I cannot work out exactly what is being done where
to make this happen and where existing and new corridors may connect or
where MIP lifts may be installed.

I've seen various plans but I still can't get it round my head!

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In message , at 18:30:43 on
Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Peter Masson remarked:
At least two platforms were able to cope with a NoL E* which is
about 300 metres long.

But only by sticking a coach and half onto otherwise unencumbered tracks
beyond the platform end. They couldn't on the majority of platforms
(which are all pretty much the same length from the buffers).
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In message , at 16:13:48 on Fri, 7 Dec
2007, Paul Scott remarked:
the main concourse is at ground level, and the main entry/exit
from the platforms will still be directly from the existing front of the
station, towards the new square, and also via the western side concourse,
which will clearly provide much improved access to the underground. There
will also be a mezzanine level for cafes & shops etc.

Unfortunately there isn't a small size report I can link to, but its all on
the Camden site if you slog through it...

I'm sure that last time I looked the platform ends were going to be
*only* exits [1]. I printed it out when this last came up, but that's at
home 300 miles away. Later this weekend, maybe...

[1] There was discussion about how they'd likely get very congested in
the rain because people would stop to put up umbrellas etc, rather than
striding outdoors into the wet.
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On 7 Dec, 21:23, Paul Corfield wrote:
The only bit I am still confused about is really what is happening with
the network of new and existing connecting tunnels between the KX
T/Link, Vic, Picc and Northern lines. I know we have the temporary link
diverging off the old T/L to Picc line corridor. However there appear to
be additional excavations occurring at the junction with the staircase
from the Vic Line as well as something going on in the closed section of
the old tunnel *and* more excavations where the temporary tunnel arrives
on the Picc Line platforms.

My understanding is that it's staying basically the same, but all the
tunnels are being enlarged and the stairs are being replaced by
escalators. The Picc escalators appear to head north from the
currently blocked off part of the Thameslink tunnel (which will be the
main tunnel) and come out in the same cross passage as the temporary
stairs.

U

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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:25:06 -0800 (PST), Mr Thant
wrote:

On 7 Dec, 21:23, Paul Corfield wrote:
The only bit I am still confused about is really what is happening with
the network of new and existing connecting tunnels between the KX
T/Link, Vic, Picc and Northern lines. I know we have the temporary link
diverging off the old T/L to Picc line corridor. However there appear to
be additional excavations occurring at the junction with the staircase
from the Vic Line as well as something going on in the closed section of
the old tunnel *and* more excavations where the temporary tunnel arrives
on the Picc Line platforms.

My understanding is that it's staying basically the same, but all the
tunnels are being enlarged and the stairs are being replaced by
escalators. The Picc escalators appear to head north from the
currently blocked off part of the Thameslink tunnel (which will be the
main tunnel) and come out in the same cross passage as the temporary
stairs.

It's the escalators that I hadn't picked up on. That certainly makes a
load of sense in the context of the closed off bit of the Thameslink -
Picc Line tunnel.
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"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:25:06 -0800 (PST), Mr Thant
wrote:



My understanding is that it's staying basically the same, but all the
tunnels are being enlarged and the stairs are being replaced by
escalators. The Picc escalators appear to head north from the
currently blocked off part of the Thameslink tunnel (which will be the
main tunnel) and come out in the same cross passage as the temporary
stairs.

It's the escalators that I hadn't picked up on. That certainly makes a
load of sense in the context of the closed off bit of the Thameslink -
Picc Line tunnel.

Where was the entrance to what is now Kings Cross Thameslink, before the
BedPan electrification? I am pretty sure it wasn't where the Kings Cross
Thameslink entrance is, but I can't recall quite where it was.

When the Metropolitan and Circle platforms were alongside what is now Kings
Cross Thameslink there was said to be a subway to that station from the
Kings Cross concourse. Can any remains of it be seen anywhere, and in
particular, was any of it incorporated into the Piccadilly to Kings Cross
Thameslink subway?

Peter

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(Mizter T) wrote:

I also believe that the platform 1-8 footbridge at KX will
eventually be the only way *onto* platforms 1-7, with exit-only at
the buffer ends.

Really?! That isn't going to be at all popular, having to lug one's
luggage up then down some stairs. Though of course there could be
lifts for each platform, and a ramp at the west side to access the
bridge, so it could be mitigated somewhat. And the main concourse is
going to be on the west side I suppose, so maybe it's not going to
be an issue at all.

It's also not what I was told when I asked, concerned about cycle access
to trains. I was firmly told that there will be a platform level access
at the side of platform 8 and shown the plans to that effect. But it does
mean that access to platform 1 (and 0) from the York Way entrance will be
very convoluted.

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