On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 05:34:48 -0800 (PST), Mr Thant
wrote:

I thought people here might be interested in the diagram I've made of
King's Cross and St Pancras, showing the passageways and routes around
the whole complex in the style of the tube map (I know a proper
floorplan would have been much more useful, but that turned out to be
way too hard). Links and a bit more explanation are on my blog:

http://londonconnections.blogspot.co...s-novelty.html
U

That's really neat.

The only bit I am still confused about is really what is happening with
the network of new and existing connecting tunnels between the KX
T/Link, Vic, Picc and Northern lines. I know we have the temporary link
diverging off the old T/L to Picc line corridor. However there appear to
be additional excavations occurring at the junction with the staircase
from the Vic Line as well as something going on in the closed section of
the old tunnel *and* more excavations where the temporary tunnel arrives
on the Picc Line platforms.

While I understand the basic idea is to provide new links to the new
Northern ticket hall I cannot work out exactly what is being done where
to make this happen and where existing and new corridors may connect or
where MIP lifts may be installed.

I've seen various plans but I still can't get it round my head!

--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

On 7 Dec, 21:23, Paul Corfield wrote:
The only bit I am still confused about is really what is happening with
the network of new and existing connecting tunnels between the KX
T/Link, Vic, Picc and Northern lines. I know we have the temporary link
diverging off the old T/L to Picc line corridor. However there appear to
be additional excavations occurring at the junction with the staircase
from the Vic Line as well as something going on in the closed section of
the old tunnel *and* more excavations where the temporary tunnel arrives
on the Picc Line platforms.

My understanding is that it's staying basically the same, but all the
tunnels are being enlarged and the stairs are being replaced by
escalators. The Picc escalators appear to head north from the
currently blocked off part of the Thameslink tunnel (which will be the
main tunnel) and come out in the same cross passage as the temporary
stairs.

U

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http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/
A blog about transport projects in London

On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:25:06 -0800 (PST), Mr Thant
wrote:

On 7 Dec, 21:23, Paul Corfield wrote:
The only bit I am still confused about is really what is happening with
the network of new and existing connecting tunnels between the KX
T/Link, Vic, Picc and Northern lines. I know we have the temporary link
diverging off the old T/L to Picc line corridor. However there appear to
be additional excavations occurring at the junction with the staircase
from the Vic Line as well as something going on in the closed section of
the old tunnel *and* more excavations where the temporary tunnel arrives
on the Picc Line platforms.

My understanding is that it's staying basically the same, but all the
tunnels are being enlarged and the stairs are being replaced by
escalators. The Picc escalators appear to head north from the
currently blocked off part of the Thameslink tunnel (which will be the
main tunnel) and come out in the same cross passage as the temporary
stairs.

It's the escalators that I hadn't picked up on. That certainly makes a
load of sense in the context of the closed off bit of the Thameslink -
Picc Line tunnel.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:25:06 -0800 (PST), Mr Thant
wrote:



My understanding is that it's staying basically the same, but all the
tunnels are being enlarged and the stairs are being replaced by
escalators. The Picc escalators appear to head north from the
currently blocked off part of the Thameslink tunnel (which will be the
main tunnel) and come out in the same cross passage as the temporary
stairs.

It's the escalators that I hadn't picked up on. That certainly makes a
load of sense in the context of the closed off bit of the Thameslink -
Picc Line tunnel.

Where was the entrance to what is now Kings Cross Thameslink, before the
BedPan electrification? I am pretty sure it wasn't where the Kings Cross
Thameslink entrance is, but I can't recall quite where it was.

When the Metropolitan and Circle platforms were alongside what is now Kings
Cross Thameslink there was said to be a subway to that station from the
Kings Cross concourse. Can any remains of it be seen anywhere, and in
particular, was any of it incorporated into the Piccadilly to Kings Cross
Thameslink subway?

Peter

On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 22:47:28 -0000, "Peter Masson"
wrote:


"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:25:06 -0800 (PST), Mr Thant
wrote:



My understanding is that it's staying basically the same, but all the
tunnels are being enlarged and the stairs are being replaced by
escalators. The Picc escalators appear to head north from the
currently blocked off part of the Thameslink tunnel (which will be the
main tunnel) and come out in the same cross passage as the temporary
stairs.

It's the escalators that I hadn't picked up on. That certainly makes a
load of sense in the context of the closed off bit of the Thameslink -
Picc Line tunnel.

Where was the entrance to what is now Kings Cross Thameslink, before the
BedPan electrification? I am pretty sure it wasn't where the Kings Cross
Thameslink entrance is, but I can't recall quite where it was.

IIRC either St Chads Place or the even shorter road between Grays Inn
Road and Caledonian Road.

When the Metropolitan and Circle platforms were alongside what is now Kings
Cross Thameslink there was said to be a subway to that station from the
Kings Cross concourse. Can any remains of it be seen anywhere, and in
particular, was any of it incorporated into the Piccadilly to Kings Cross
Thameslink subway?

Peter

Charles Ellson wrote:
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 22:47:28 -0000, "Peter Masson"
wrote:

Where was the entrance to what is now Kings Cross Thameslink, before
the BedPan electrification? I am pretty sure it wasn't where the
Kings Cross Thameslink entrance is, but I can't recall quite where
it was.

IIRC either St Chads Place or the even shorter road between Grays Inn
Road and Caledonian Road.

....since that road is called "Kings Cross Bridge", it sounds possible.