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Peter Lawrence wrote:
Delayed commuters will be frustrated since, as might be expected,
mobile phones do not work on the platforms (does the technology exist
to fix this?).


Yes, it's perfectly possible for a micro-cell site to be installed in
the platform area: http://www.mobiledia.com/glossary/162.html

I would have thought, given the tight deadline that it wasn't high in
the list of priorities (just like the shops in the rest of the station
which were delayed in favour of more important bits of the station!) ...
but then commuters don't expect mobile phone reception in any another
below ground station
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but then commuters don't expect mobile phone reception in any another
below ground station


I find this very astonishing. In other parts of the world mobile phone
coverage of underground lines has been custom for years. The operators
have installed several transmitters (e.g. here
http://www.fst-gsm.de/d1-u-bahn.html is a list for one operator in
Cologne, Germany. The other 3 German operators have similar equipment).
It works.

As far as I know the phone operators pays the transport company (KVB) a
rent - so KVB gets more revenue and improves service at the same time.

Of course, the London underground network is much, much larger. But even
then I find it hard to understand why it is that difficult there.
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On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:27:29 +0100, Martin Krieger
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Of course, the London underground network is much, much larger. But even
then I find it hard to understand why it is that difficult there.


Many people wouldn't want it, just as many don't want it on planes.
It's unpleasant enough spending time rammed up hard against other
passengers without them blabbing away into mobile phones at the same
time.

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but then commuters don't expect mobile phone reception in any another
below ground station


I find this very astonishing. In other parts of the world mobile phone
coverage of underground lines has been custom for years. The operators
have installed several transmitters (e.g. here
http://www.fst-gsm.de/d1-u-bahn.html is a list for one operator in
Cologne, Germany. The other 3 German operators have similar equipment). It
works.

As far as I know the phone operators pays the transport company (KVB) a
rent - so KVB gets more revenue and improves service at the same time.

Of course, the London underground network is much, much larger. But even
then I find it hard to understand why it is that difficult there.


They used the 'security threat' excuse on LU didn't they? And now they have
to have a trial to see if the technology will work - 'not invented here'
springs to mind...

Paul


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On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 13:25:43 GMT, Stuart
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Peter Lawrence wrote:
Delayed commuters will be frustrated since, as might be expected,
mobile phones do not work on the platforms (does the technology exist
to fix this?).


Yes, it's perfectly possible for a micro-cell site to be installed in
the platform area: http://www.mobiledia.com/glossary/162.html

I would have thought, given the tight deadline that it wasn't high in
the list of priorities (just like the shops in the rest of the station
which were delayed in favour of more important bits of the station!) ...
but then commuters don't expect mobile phone reception in any another
below ground station


TL commmuters are used to using their phones in KXTL (and Farringdon)
so will not be happy.
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Peter Lawrence wrote:


TL commmuters are used to using their phones in KXTL (and Farringdon)
so will not be happy.


They might have ben used to it at the old station, but that was because
they could see the open air. Surely the automatic assumption is that if
you're underground you won't be able to use your phone?

Do they work at City?
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In article ,
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TL commmuters are used to using their phones in KXTL (and Farringdon)
so will not be happy.


Do they work at City?


Yes
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On 9 Dec, 23:49, Richardr wrote:

Do they work at City?


Yes


It's going to be hit and miss, depending on the network, handset and
other conditions. And, between Farringdon and King's Cross TL you
wouldn't maintain a signal all the way - so it's not going to make too
much of a difference.

However, in due course, I'd expect to see proper coverage at these
stations and many more (plus inbetween) - depending on the results of
the Waterloo & City line trial.

Jonathan


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