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On 17 Dec, 00:18, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
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(lonelytraveller) wrote:
The york curve was used as a public walkway at one point decades
ago, I'm not sure why that changed.


When do you think that was? It was in railway use until closed for the GN
electrification, in 1975(?). That was before Thameslink.

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Early 80s I think.

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The platforms can't both be "massive" and "only 2 ft wide" - if an
extra track was inserted. Anyone done some measurements?


I used the southbound platform this morning. It looks to be 6 to 7
metres wide along most of the length.

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In message , at 09:24:24 on Tue, 18
Dec 2007, Clive D. W. Feather remarked:
The platforms can't both be "massive" and "only 2 ft wide" - if an
extra track was inserted. Anyone done some measurements?


I used the southbound platform this morning. It looks to be 6 to 7
metres wide along most of the length.


How much of that would need to be stolen, to add a track, if it was
converted to an island?
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jonmorris wrote:
On 11 Dec, 11:08, Sky Rider wrote:

What I'm personally more annoyed about are the new gates - at the moment
you have to shove your (paper) ticket through the slot, and the flaps
themselves are so slow they make it easier for tailgaters to pass
through behind someone else (compared to the other two sets of gates on
the LU network anyway).


The gates are shockingly slow, just like those in use throughout
King's Cross. I don't like them one bit (about 10 people can pass
through with you) but for the sake of Paul C's sanity, I won't start
ranting about them again!!


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I used SPILL again yesterday and found that it is not so hard to push
your ticket through the slot now (perhaps the slots have been lubricated
by the sheer number of tickets they've handled now). I also noted that
there are 13 automatic gates at the entrance/exit (11 narrow, 2 wide).
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solar penguin wrote:
Thanks. So since the SPILL platforms are west of 1-4 they should
logically be -1 and 0. I can see why the planners preferred A and B
instead...


The SPILL platforms are (obviously) on a different level to all the
other StP platforms and they are actually located under the MML
platforms along their northernmost half, so A & B are good characters
for the SPILL platforms.


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EMT and FCC services are now both listed under STP on the LDB.
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In article , Roland Perry
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I used the southbound platform this morning. It looks to be 6 to 7
metres wide along most of the length.


How much of that would need to be stolen, to add a track, if it was
converted to an island?


Standard loading gauge width, which IIRC is 2.95 metres.

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lonelytraveller writes
Well, east, anyway. The station building is 150-odd metres east of the
junction of York Road and Euston Road; that junction is very roughly the
eastern end of the Northern line platforms, and the western end of the
Victoria platforms.

Its further than the end of the victoria line - the connecting tunnels
are very long, and only just reach the far end of the KX thameslink
platforms.


The west end of the Victoria Line platforms are under the north side of
Euston Road, just west of York Road (about where the newspaper stand
is). The east end is under the west side of Caledonian Road outside
number 7, opposite Omega Place.

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lonelytraveller writes
It looks like the Victoria tubes curve northwards west of the platforms;
if they didn't want the platforms to be curved, they'd have had to bulge
out more to the south of King's Cross, which maybe they didn't want - as
you, say, maybe there's an obstruction.

They head towards Euston, just like the circle line and northern line.
I'm not sure why they might look like they curve in that diagram, its
probably just an illusion due to the two running tunnels approaching
each other, after being far apart to fit the platforms in.


They *do* curve. The platforms are parallel to, but slightly north of,
the extended line of Euston Road (the south platform is in line with the
northern kerb outside KX). They curve right by about 30 degrees to cross
Pancras Road about 120m north of Euston Road, then back left again to
cross Chalton Street about 150m north of Euston Road, then runs parallel
to the Euston Road, south of Doric Way and under the plaza between
Euston station and the bus station.

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