In article
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lonelytraveller writes
The eastern end of the northern line platforms are almost directly
under the Tube Ticket Hall, and the western end are almost under St
Pancras;

They *are* under St.Pancras - the east edge of the station is about 20
metres from the west end of the platforms.

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In message , at 12:08:30 on Tue, 18
Dec 2007, Clive D. W. Feather remarked:
I used the southbound platform this morning. It looks to be 6 to 7
metres wide along most of the length.

How much of that would need to be stolen, to add a track, if it was
converted to an island?

Standard loading gauge width, which IIRC is 2.95 metres.

So the island platform would end up being 3-4 metres wide.

4 metres seems to be the minimum para C3.5 (or 5 metres if it has things
like lamp-post down the centre):

http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/docushare...7/GIRT7016.pdf
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In message
"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote:

In article , Roland Perry
writes
I used the southbound platform this morning. It looks to be 6 to 7
metres wide along most of the length.

How much of that would need to be stolen, to add a track, if it was
converted to an island?

Standard loading gauge width, which IIRC is 2.95 metres.


Which leaves a 3 to 4 metre platform which would be adequate I should
think. According to How The Underground Works (LT 1968) Ministry of
Transport limits were 6 ft (1.82m) for a single platform and 12 ft (3.66m)
for an island platform. Tube station platforms are normally 10'6". (3.2)

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"Graeme Wall" wrote

Which leaves a 3 to 4 metre platform which would be adequate I should
think. According to How The Underground Works (LT 1968) Ministry of
Transport limits were 6 ft (1.82m) for a single platform and 12 ft (3.66m)
for an island platform. Tube station platforms are normally 10'6". (3.2)

I would be wary of an island platform of minimum width at a station which is
likely to be crowded, especially if there is a serviec disruption. I know
the Claphams on the Northern Line are well below current standards, but
before Angel was rebuilt I felt very apprehensive there.

The only real advantage of having island platforms at SPILL will be if
trains arrive off the Midland and Great Northern Lines together they will be
able to unload either side of the island, instead of one having to wait
outside.

Peter

In message , at 15:23:05 on
Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Peter Masson remarked:
The only real advantage of having island platforms at SPILL will be if
trains arrive off the Midland and Great Northern Lines together they will be
able to unload either side of the island, instead of one having to wait
outside.

It also makes journeys *through* London easier to do. Swapping between a
hypothetical Bedford-Brighton train and a Cambridge-Dartford train.
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 15:23:05 on Tue, 18
Dec 2007, Peter Masson remarked:

The only real advantage of having island platforms at SPILL will be if
trains arrive off the Midland and Great Northern Lines together they
will be able to unload either side of the island, instead of one having
to wait outside.

It also makes journeys *through* London easier to do. Swapping between a
hypothetical Bedford-Brighton train and a Cambridge-Dartford train.

Yes, it means you wouldn't have to turn round 180 degrees after stepping
off the first train before you wait for the second one.

tom

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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Clive D. W. Feather wrote:

In article
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lonelytraveller writes

Well, east, anyway. The station building is 150-odd metres east of the
junction of York Road and Euston Road; that junction is very roughly the
eastern end of the Northern line platforms, and the western end of the
Victoria platforms.
Its further than the end of the victoria line - the connecting tunnels
are very long, and only just reach the far end of the KX thameslink
platforms.

The west end of the Victoria Line platforms are under the north side of
Euston Road, just west of York Road (about where the newspaper stand
is). The east end is under the west side of Caledonian Road outside
number 7, opposite Omega Place.

About 60 metres northwest of the old Thameslink station building, then.

tom

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"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
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The west end of the Victoria Line platforms are under the north side of
Euston Road, just west of York Road (about where the newspaper stand is).
The east end is under the west side of Caledonian Road outside number 7,
opposite Omega Place.

About 60 metres northwest of the old Thameslink station building, then.


Have any external changes been made to the KX Thameslink station, (the
fascia for instance) to reflect its new LU only role?

Paul S

Paul Scott wrote:
Have any external changes been made to the KX Thameslink station, (the
fascia for instance) to reflect its new LU only role?

The big 'King's Cross Thameslink' sign at the front has been removed,
and several square-shaped plastic sheets (with the blue/red Underground
roundel on a white background) have been placed along the glass wall and
perpendicular to the side of the roof as well.

Come of think of it, there are also blue 'KING'S CROSS ST. PANCRAS
STATION' signs just above the doors and (unsurprisingly) plenty of
notices stating that FCC now stop at StP instead.

That said, someone did ask me 'are the trains on strike?' when they saw
that the Thameslink platforms were closed off (we were beside the metal
gate next to Platform A at the time). I sent him to StP, and later on
suddenly wondered if he was actually looking for the tube.

In message , at
16:07:36 on Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Tom Anderson
remarked:
It also makes journeys *through* London easier to do. Swapping
between a hypothetical Bedford-Brighton train and a
Cambridge-Dartford train.

Yes, it means you wouldn't have to turn round 180 degrees after
stepping off the first train before you wait for the second one.

It's the "waiting for the next one" that's most important.

Having cross-platform interchange like that will also reduce the number
of people hanging around waiting.
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