TL commmuters are used to using their phones in KXTL (and Farringdon)
so will not be happy.

Well I will be happy - not having to put up with their (most of the time)
pointless conversations that could easily wait.

At 11:48:40 on Sun, 9 Dec 2007 Peter Lawrence opined:-

First impressions of the Thameslink platforms at St Pancras which opened
on time this morning (after what must have been a massive tidy-up
operation).

Spacious platforms, clean and well lit but not inspiring and, as yet,
minimal advertising. Signs and indicators matching the those rest of
St.P.I. The train indicators do show intermediate stations (ref
earlier comment here.) Seats only at the outer ends of the platforms,
probably not enough of them, particularly since half of them will be off
the end of 4 coach trains.

That at least is better than St P I, which has NO seats.
--
Thoss

In message , at 11:48:40 on
Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Peter Lawrence remarked:

Seats only at the outer ends of the platforms, probably not enough of
them

Whoever designed that aspect of StP (was it the architect we saw
agonising over small details on TV, or someone else) has clearly got an
aversion to seating.

Delayed commuters will be frustrated since, as might be expected,
mobile phones do not work on the platforms (does the technology exist
to fix this?).

Of course. The HEx tunnels have continuous coverage, or they could fit
some microcells for just the platforms. However, they don't even seem to
have wifi in the main shed yet. Another blind spot from the architects?
--
Roland Perry

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:38:28 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

Whoever designed that aspect of StP (was it the architect we saw
agonising over small details on TV, or someone else) has clearly got an
aversion to seating.

Same as Euston[1], then? Maybe it was intentional to encourage
business for the shops and bars. Mind you, Blackhole isn't exactly
well-endowed with seating, bar that almost-floor-level bar that people
tend to sit on on the platforms.

[1] I am a big fan of Euston as a very practical station, if not
anything like as beautiful as St. P. However, it has two very bad
design features. One is the lack of seating, and the other is the
lack of a marked-out (perhaps with railings) area in which passengers
should *not* stand and wait on the concourse, which means that getting
to the suburban platforms in the peak can be a slow affair.

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

In message , at 14:47:34 on Sun,
9 Dec 2007, Neil Williams remarked:

Whoever designed that aspect of StP (was it the architect we saw
agonising over small details on TV, or someone else) has clearly got an
aversion to seating.

Same as Euston[1], then? Maybe it was intentional to encourage
business for the shops and bars.

When MML was using the Kent platforms as interim-platform, there was
almost a sensible amount of seating near the buffers. But now it's as
bad as KX (which does have seats around the perimeter of the 1970's
concourse, but they are always full). On the other hand, the KX Suburban
platforms have plenty of seating on them.

If the lack of seating is a "feature" then they haven't provided any
useful seating within catering establishments anywhere near the MML
platforms.
--
Roland Perry

On Dec 9, 2:38 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
Of course. The HEx tunnels have continuous coverage, or they could fit
some microcells for just the platforms. However, they don't even seem to
have wifi in the main shed yet. Another blind spot from the architects?

Who cares about wifi in a railway station? Can't people find something
better to do with their time than surf the internet while they wait
for a train? Any business serfs who need to be online all the time
will have their corporate crackberry anyway.

B2003

In message
, at
11:04:28 on Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Boltar remarked:
Of course. The HEx tunnels have continuous coverage, or they could fit
some microcells for just the platforms. However, they don't even seem to
have wifi in the main shed yet. Another blind spot from the architects?

Who cares about wifi in a railway station? Can't people find something
better to do with their time than surf the internet while they wait
for a train?

What is there better to do (remembering that usenet access is an
important ingredient of Internet Access)?

Let alone all those people who say a major reason for using a train
(instead of driving) is because you can work. My work arrives by
Internet.

Any business serfs who need to be online all the time will have their
corporate crackberry anyway.

Kiddy toys. I need proper Internet access.
--
Roland Perry

On 9 Dec, 19:38, Roland Perry wrote:

Kiddy toys. I need proper Internet access.

Well, the new BlackBerry models now have 1) A proper web browser and
2) Wi-Fi... so these users will want fast, cheap Internet access too.

Personally, I use HSDPA to get 3.6 (or soon 7.2Mbps) for myself - but
Wi-Fi still has its place. StP will be getting it, but it seems to
have been delayed.

Jonathan

In message
, at
16:21:57 on Sun, 9 Dec 2007, jonmorris
remarked:
Kiddy toys. I need proper Internet access.

Well, the new BlackBerry models now have 1) A proper web browser and
2) Wi-Fi... so these users will want fast, cheap Internet access too.

And the iPhone will also pick up wifi, iirc.

(As for Blackberry style access, I want to be able to work on my laptop,
not browse a sunset of my email with the aid of a magnifying glass. I
used something a bit like a Blackberry a long time ago, and it
definitely has its place, although not scalable to my current
requirements).
--
Roland Perry

On Dec 9, 7:38 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at
11:04:28 on Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Boltar remarked:

Of course. The HEx tunnels have continuous coverage, or they could fit
some microcells for just the platforms. However, they don't even seem to
have wifi in the main shed yet. Another blind spot from the architects?

Who cares about wifi in a railway station? Can't people find something
better to do with their time than surf the internet while they wait
for a train?

What is there better to do (remembering that usenet access is an
important ingredient of Internet Access)?

Read a book , read a paper, sleep...


Let alone all those people who say a major reason for using a train
(instead of driving) is because you can work. My work arrives by
Internet.

You have my sympathies. When I leave the office the job stays behind
and I go back to my real life.

B2003