"Railist" wrote in message
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On Dec 9, 3:30 pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
"John Rowland" wrote in message

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Peter Lawrence wrote:
First impressions of the Thameslink platforms at St Pancras which
opened on time this morning (after what must have been a massive
tidy-up operation).

Where's the street entrance? I drove through Midland Road yesterday and
couldn't see any signs marking a station at all.

Pancras Rd - probably why the station isn't being called 'Midland Rd'
anymore?

The Midland Road doors were signed internally as a 'taxi only' exit when
I
was last there a couple of weeks ago - perhaps they feel its still too
much
of a building site that side?

Paul

National Rail refers to the station (on it's departures board) as
STPXBOX.

Teething troubles? - the trains through the station are currently shown on
LDBs as calling at St Pancras Domestic, (but not the other way round, ie STP
only shows EMT trains), although I'm sure a few weeks ago someone posted a
separate TLC for the low level platforms.

Paul S

Surprisingly, the southern ends of the platforms are on a curve but
these will only be needed if and when we get 12 coaches. This curve
causes much flange noise from southbound trains to compete with
automatic train announcements.

This is because the station is superimposed on an existing track
layout with modifcations mainly in the vertical to provide clearance
to the overbridges.

IIRC the radius is around 200m on the Kings Cross curves. There is an
existing left and right hand reverse of similar size curves between
KXT and the new station.

OC

Paul Scott wrote:
Teething troubles?

Or maybe the fit-out of SPILL was sponsored by Microsoft.

The trains through the station are currently shown on
LDBs as calling at St Pancras Domestic, (but not the other way round, ie STP
only shows EMT trains).

The Journey Planner labelles StP as London St Pancras (Domestic) (STP),
regardless of whether a journey to/from that station involves EMT or
FCC. It is indeed the case that the different labels for StP are
published on the National Rail LDB depending on the operator.

I'm sure a few weeks ago someone posted a
separate TLC for the low level platforms.

The low-level platforms were labeled as SPL (London St Pancras {Low
Level)) by National Rail at one point, but if you search for SPL now
you're asked whether you want Leamington Spa, Bath Spa, Cheltenham Spa
or Droitwich Spa.

"Sky Rider" wrote in message
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Paul Scott wrote:
Teething troubles?

Or maybe the fit-out of SPILL was sponsored by Microsoft.

The trains through the station are currently shown on LDBs as calling at
St Pancras Domestic, (but not the other way round, ie STP only shows EMT
trains).

The Journey Planner labelles StP as London St Pancras (Domestic) (STP),
regardless of whether a journey to/from that station involves EMT or FCC.
It is indeed the case that the different labels for StP are published on
the National Rail LDB depending on the operator.


But that's not happening at the moment, unless the low level platforms are
closed, The LDB for STP is only showing the 'upstairs' services...

Paul

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 13:25:43 GMT, Stuart
wrote:

Peter Lawrence wrote:
Delayed commuters will be frustrated since, as might be expected,
mobile phones do not work on the platforms (does the technology exist
to fix this?).

Yes, it's perfectly possible for a micro-cell site to be installed in
the platform area: http://www.mobiledia.com/glossary/162.html

I would have thought, given the tight deadline that it wasn't high in
the list of priorities (just like the shops in the rest of the station
which were delayed in favour of more important bits of the station!) ...
but then commuters don't expect mobile phone reception in any another
below ground station

TL commmuters are used to using their phones in KXTL (and Farringdon)
so will not be happy.
--
Peter Lawrence

On Dec 9, 2:38 pm, Roland Perry wrote:
Of course. The HEx tunnels have continuous coverage, or they could fit
some microcells for just the platforms. However, they don't even seem to
have wifi in the main shed yet. Another blind spot from the architects?

Who cares about wifi in a railway station? Can't people find something
better to do with their time than surf the internet while they wait
for a train? Any business serfs who need to be online all the time
will have their corporate crackberry anyway.

B2003

In message
, at
11:04:28 on Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Boltar remarked:
Of course. The HEx tunnels have continuous coverage, or they could fit
some microcells for just the platforms. However, they don't even seem to
have wifi in the main shed yet. Another blind spot from the architects?

Who cares about wifi in a railway station? Can't people find something
better to do with their time than surf the internet while they wait
for a train?

What is there better to do (remembering that usenet access is an
important ingredient of Internet Access)?

Let alone all those people who say a major reason for using a train
(instead of driving) is because you can work. My work arrives by
Internet.

Any business serfs who need to be online all the time will have their
corporate crackberry anyway.

Kiddy toys. I need proper Internet access.
--
Roland Perry

Paul Scott wrote:
"Sky Rider" wrote in message
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Paul Scott wrote:
Teething troubles?
Or maybe the fit-out of SPILL was sponsored by Microsoft.

The trains through the station are currently shown on LDBs as calling at
St Pancras Domestic, (but not the other way round, ie STP only shows EMT
trains).
The Journey Planner labelles StP as London St Pancras (Domestic) (STP),
regardless of whether a journey to/from that station involves EMT or FCC.
It is indeed the case that the different labels for StP are published on
the National Rail LDB depending on the operator.


But that's not happening at the moment, unless the low level platforms are
closed, The LDB for STP is only showing the 'upstairs' services...

My point about the Journey Planner stands, and I agree with you about
the LDB. What I meant to say is that when viewing the LDB for a station
besides StP, if StP is on the list of other stations the corresponding
service calls at then it will be shown as 'London St Pancras (Domestic)'
or 'STPXBOX'. It is only when you view the LDB specifically for STP
(note that StP and STP have distinct meanings here) that only EMT
services show up.

snip

By the way, our very own Mr Thant has published the first picture of
SPILL. http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/

Peter Lawrence wrote:


TL commmuters are used to using their phones in KXTL (and Farringdon)
so will not be happy.

They might have ben used to it at the old station, but that was because
they could see the open air. Surely the automatic assumption is that if
you're underground you won't be able to use your phone?

Do they work at City?