"Tom Anderson" wrote

From H&I to Camden Road the NLL will have 4 tracks, the southern pair
westbound and the northern pair eastbound (though two tracks will have
reversible signalling, presumably to allow service to continue if one
pair is blocked for maintenance). Canonbury is shown as having three
platforms (no platform face on the northernmost line,

By 'Canonbury', do you mean 'Caledonian Road & Barnsbury'?

Yes. Sorry, I always get the two mixed up.

Peter

In article ,
(Tom Anderson) wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007, Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In article ,
(Tom Anderson) wrote:

You're right about a cross-country link, but it's not Oxford to
Cambridge, it's from Ipswich to Nuneaton. The tracks are there, but
the route isn't suitable for freight trains. If it was, traffic
between Felixstowe and the West Midlands (which is most of the
traffic through Felixstowe) could go that way rather than via
London.

Er, it's not W10 gauge and can't therefore take 9'6" containers
on standard wagons but it carries a good deal of freight, I can
assure you!

Apologies! I may be slightly guilty of "if it ain't high cube, it
ain't freight (and well wagons are cheating)" thinking.

The last time I was at Cambridge station there was a freightliner train
reversing in the sidings, as they have been regularly since the accident
with the bridge at Ely which has blocked the direct line from Chippenham
Junction to Ely Dock Junction. Allegedly the new bridge will open on 20
December.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007, Peter Masson wrote:

"Tom Anderson" wrote

From H&I to Camden Road the NLL will have 4 tracks, the southern pair
westbound and the northern pair eastbound (though two tracks will have
reversible signalling, presumably to allow service to continue if one
pair is blocked for maintenance). Canonbury is shown as having three
platforms (no platform face on the northernmost line,

By 'Canonbury', do you mean 'Caledonian Road & Barnsbury'?

Yes. Sorry, I always get the two mixed up.

I blame whoever it was who picked the name 'Caledonian Road & Barnsbury'.
In fact, the NLL has (well, had) no fewer than four 'and' names -
Silvertown & London City Airport, Highbury & Islington, Caledonian Road &
Barnsbury, Finchley Road & Frognal. I suspect that someone in the company
had a cousin who was a signwriter, and charged by the letter!

tom

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In article ,
(Tom Anderson) wrote:

December Modern Railways suggests:

Basically, the ELL won't actually join the NLL at Dalston, it'll
just turn and run alongside it to Highbury & Islington. They'll be
completely segregated (although there may be connections, they
won't be in use in normal service, if i've got this right).

I draw myself a diagram to work this out, so i thought i'd share
it, only then i thought i'd draw it more nicely first. I hope you
all appreciate this:

http://flickr.com/photos/twic/2115244713/

You show both ELLX tracks as stubs at H&I. Modern Railways shows one
continuing into the NLL.
--
Colin Rosenstiel

lonelytraveller wrote:
The Forest Line proposal was to extend the W&C to Broad St - Dalston
Junction - Dalston East Junction - Hackney Wick - Clapton -
Chingford. It never got off page one of the study which produced it
(1960s or so).

How was it supposed to get to Broad Street without going through the
Bank of England's vaults

This was mentioned near the bottom of page one.

Tom Anderson wrote:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007, John Rowland wrote:

Mizter T wrote:

Going back to something you said - I had never considered the
possibility of a line north from Dalston Jn towards Stoke Newington,
meeting the Great Eastern line there.

The Forest Line proposal was to extend the W&C to Broad St - Dalston
Junction - Dalston East Junction - Hackney Wick - Clapton -
Chingford. It never got off page one of the study which produced it
(1960s or so).

Interesting. Presumably, the portal was to have been south of Dalston?

Are you sure about Dalston - Hackney Wick - Clapton - Chingford? Do
you mean Downs rather than Wick?

Yes.

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

In article ,
(Tom Anderson) wrote:

December Modern Railways suggests:

Basically, the ELL won't actually join the NLL at Dalston, it'll
just turn and run alongside it to Highbury & Islington. They'll be
completely segregated (although there may be connections, they
won't be in use in normal service, if i've got this right).

I draw myself a diagram to work this out, so i thought i'd share
it, only then i thought i'd draw it more nicely first. I hope you
all appreciate this:

http://flickr.com/photos/twic/2115244713/

You show both ELLX tracks as stubs at H&I. Modern Railways shows one
continuing into the NLL.

Yes, one of the many details i missed out (or mistakes i made, depending
on how charitably you look at it). I did put a note on the picture,
though!

tom

--
never mind your fingers, i've got blisters on my brain

In message ,
Colin Rosenstiel writes
Eh, lad, I can remember when the Birmingham Cross-City service (well, the
Southern bit at least) consisted of only three trains a day!

Incredible now but absolutely true, as you say.

The northern bit (theoretically linked with the Stourbridge line in the
early seventies) wasn't significantly better, either.......
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

DERWENT New DLR station opened today
Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:42:53 -0800 (PST), John B

On 14 Dec, 12:34, wrote:
Less welcome is the fact that passengers on the Stratford branch now
have no trains beyond Canary Wharf after 10am in the morning. Thanks!

The interchange isn't the world's most arduous.

And still the only branch with no service to the city.

Luckily, there are big blue trains with rainbows on the side, or small
white trains with red doors if you prefer, that will do that job for
you. I think it's fair to say that Stratford/City links are not a
major problem...

These trains don't stop at PUdding Mill Lane, Devons Road or Langdon
Park...

PRAR
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On 21 Dec, 09:49, PRAR wrote:
DERWENT New DLR station opened today
Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:42:53 -0800 (PST), John B

On 14 Dec, 12:34, wrote:
Less welcome is the fact that passengers on the Stratford branch now
have no trains beyond Canary Wharf after 10am in the morning. Thanks!

The interchange isn't the world's most arduous.

And still the only branch with no service to the city.

Luckily, there are big blue trains with rainbows on the side, or small
white trains with red doors if you prefer, that will do that job for
you. I think it's fair to say that Stratford/City links are not a
major problem...

These trains don't stop at PUdding Mill Lane, Devons Road or Langdon
Park...

PRAR


True. But the interchange at Poplar couldn't be easier - it's just
across the platform, and what's more the Canary Wharf and City bound
trains normally pull into the platforms at the same time so passengers
don't even have to wait.