On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:49:38 -0800 (PST), chunky munky
wrote:

London Overground isn't quite like a TOC. It is a concession from TfL.
A private firm operate it on TfLs behalf. TfL set the timetable, fares
and staffing levels. They also retain 100% of the fares.

Apart from revenue risk, it is not dissimilar from Merseyrail, which
is "franchised" by the PTE. It is, however, still part of the
national network, which LOROL will need to remain unless TfL plans on
removing fares interavailability, through fares and the likes which is
likely to annoy quite a few people if they do.

Neil

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(Neil Williams) wrote:

It is, however, still part of the national network, which LOROL will
need to remain unless TfL plans on removing fares interavailability,
through fares and the likes which is likely to annoy quite a few
people if they do.

Once zonal fares have been fully implemented within the London zones,
will they care if people can't get fares between LOROL-operated lines and
the rest of the national network? They gave up caring about that for
fares from the District to the old Southern Region years ago, it would
appear.

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Colin Rosenstiel

On 29 Dec, 00:49, chunky munky wrote:

There is
more information in the Corporate Design section of the TfL website.


And the 'London Overground Signs Standard' is especially enlightening,
particularly pages 24 and 29 where 55 Broadway's hidden agenda to
extend the Metropolitan line to Croydon is exposed

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/corporate/...ardIssue01.pdf

or

http://tinyurl.com/yvv8g3

Stuart J

"StuartJ" wrote in message
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On 29 Dec, 00:49, chunky munky wrote:

There is
more information in the Corporate Design section of the TfL website.


And the 'London Overground Signs Standard' is especially enlightening,
particularly pages 24 and 29 where 55 Broadway's hidden agenda to
extend the Metropolitan line to Croydon is exposed


http://tinyurl.com/yvv8g3

Well spotted

LOROL

Paul S

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007, Paul Scott wrote:

Well spotted

LOROL

I'm glad i'm not the only person who's been thinking that!

tom

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In article
,
(StuartJ) wrote:

On 29 Dec, 00:49, chunky munky
wrote:

There is more information in the Corporate Design section of the TfL
website.

And the 'London Overground Signs Standard' is especially enlightening,
particularly pages 24 and 29 where 55 Broadway's hidden agenda to
extend the Metropolitan line to Croydon is exposed


http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/corporate/...sets/downloads
/overground/OvergroundSignsStandardIssue01.pdf

or

http://tinyurl.com/yvv8g3

They're all in Overground Orange here. What am I missing?

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Colin Rosenstiel

On 29 Dec, 22:30, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
In article
,

(StuartJ) wrote:
On 29 Dec, 00:49, chunky munky
wrote:

There is more information in the Corporate Design section of the TfL
website.

And the 'London Overground Signs Standard' is especially enlightening,
particularly pages 24 and 29 where 55 Broadway's hidden agenda to
extend the Metropolitan line to Croydon is exposed

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/corporate/...ds/assets/down...



or

http://tinyurl.com/yvv8g3

They're all in Overground Orange here. What am I missing?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Check the stations between Crystal Palace and East Croydon in the
diagram on page 29.

If a LO station only has LO services then it will eventually not have
the NR Double Arrow logo, there are some expections to this. There is
more information in the Corporate Design section of the TfL website.

Ah, my apologise. However, I don't think I like this. Assuming that National
Rail railcards are still vaild along with National Rail ticketing and
information, to not have the National Rail symbol strikes me as odd.

Best Wishes,
LEWIS

"Lew 1" wrote in message
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If a LO station only has LO services then it will eventually not have
the NR Double Arrow logo, there are some expections to this. There is
more information in the Corporate Design section of the TfL website.

Ah, my apologise. However, I don't think I like this. Assuming that
National
Rail railcards are still vaild along with National Rail ticketing and
information, to not have the National Rail symbol strikes me as odd.


The TfL 'Corporate Design' stuff explains that it's only the Dalston
Junction - Surrey Quays section (previously ELL) that won't display the NR
symbol. Everywhere else keeps it.

Paul S

In article ,
(Paul Scott) wrote:

"Lew 1" wrote in message
...
If a LO station only has LO services then it will eventually not
have the NR Double Arrow logo, there are some expections to this.
There is more information in the Corporate Design section of the TfL

website.

Ah, my apologise. However, I don't think I like this. Assuming that
National Rail railcards are still vaild along with National Rail
ticketing and information, to not have the National Rail symbol
strikes me as odd.

The TfL 'Corporate Design' stuff explains that it's only the
Dalston Junction - Surrey Quays section (previously ELL) that won't
display the NR symbol. Everywhere else keeps it.

Although Dalston Junction-Shoreditch (-ish) was never an Underground line
and was part of BR.

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Colin Rosenstiel