Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Peter Smyth) wrote:

asdf wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:09:19 +0000, Tom Anderson wrote:

I was just thinking that Hackney Central might be a good place to
terminate trains from the GEML, routing them via Stratford, while
Liverpool Street is closed. But of course, there are still works at
Shenfield that mean they can't even get to Stratford.

And it wouldn't really be a very good idea anyway.

Fenchurch Street would be a better idea (using the connection from
Stratford). But even with over a year to organise it, it hasn't
happened.

The problem with that is Fenchurch Street only has 4 platforms so
doesn't have the capacity to take One trains as well as the c2c
trains.

Come on! How many platforms at Fenchurch St does the C2C service
require at this time of year? Two?

c2c are running a normal offpeak service (8tph) but with fewer peak trains.
The other problem is that the link between Stratford and Fenchurch Street is
only single track.

Peter Smyth

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:50:05 -0000, Peter Smyth wrote:

I was just thinking that Hackney Central might be a good place to
terminate trains from the GEML, routing them via Stratford, while
Liverpool Street is closed. But of course, there are still works at
Shenfield that mean they can't even get to Stratford.

And it wouldn't really be a very good idea anyway.

Fenchurch Street would be a better idea (using the connection from
Stratford). But even with over a year to organise it, it hasn't
happened.

The problem with that is Fenchurch Street only has 4 platforms so
doesn't have the capacity to take One trains as well as the c2c
trains.

Come on! How many platforms at Fenchurch St does the C2C service
require at this time of year? Two?

c2c are running a normal offpeak service (8tph) but with fewer peak trains.
The other problem is that the link between Stratford and Fenchurch Street is
only single track.

Though the single track presumably has a capacity greater than 0tph.

On Dec 30, 6:10*pm, asdf wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:50:05 -0000, Peter Smyth wrote:
I was just thinking that Hackney Central might be a good place to
terminate trains from the GEML, routing them via Stratford, while
Liverpool Street is closed. But of course, there are still works at
Shenfield that mean they can't even get to Stratford.

And it wouldn't really be a very good idea anyway.

Fenchurch Street would be a better idea (using the connection from
Stratford). But even with over a year to organise it, it hasn't
happened.

The problem with that is Fenchurch Street only has 4 platforms so
doesn't have the capacity to take One trains as well as the c2c
trains.

Come on! How many platforms at Fenchurch St does the C2C service
require at this time of year? Two?

c2c are running a normal offpeak service (8tph) but with fewer peak trains.
The other problem is that the link between Stratford and Fenchurch Street is
only single track.

Though the single track presumably has a capacity greater than 0tph.-

And Fenchurch Street manages about 20 tph in the peaks. But maybe One
trains can't cope without a three-hour layover to remove the coffee
cups.

However, I can't really see that a diversion to Fenchurch Street
(probably slow) gives many advantages over a change to the Central
Line. It's annoyingly disconnected if you don't happen to work next
door and I bet you could get to Tower Hill quicker via Central and
Mile End.

John Rowland wrote:
Dave Newt wrote:
I've been on the Hertford East trains at least four times in the last
week where the onboard announcements have sporadically announced that
we would "shortly be arriving at Shenfield". Is this some screw up
with the recorded announcements?

The answer to your question depends entirely on whether the trains shortly
arrived at Shenfield ;-)

Having heard the announcements at Ware, Rye House, Broxbourne, Enfield
Lock and Ponders End, I'd be impressed if they had!

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007, Dave Newt wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:

Trust our friends in the media to screw at least one thing up! Trains
from Cambridge are going to Hackney Downs, though pax are being told to
change at Seven Sisters or Tottenham Hale.

Talking of which, this is the view that greeted me at Tottenham Hale last
night:

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6...7413001sh5.jpg

Superb!

tom

--
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets
of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a
whole galaxy of multi colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and
also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw
ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all this for the trip,
but once you get locked in a serious drug collection, the tendency is
to push it as far as you can. -- Hunter S. Thompson, 'Fear and loathing
in Las Vegas'

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007, Dave Newt wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote:

Liverpool Street is closed. But of course, there are still works at
Shenfield that mean they can't even get to Stratford.

I've been on the Hertford East trains at least four times in the last
week where the onboard announcements have sporadically announced that we
would "shortly be arriving at Shenfield". Is this some screw up with the
recorded announcements?

Could it be that some stock that usually works on the GEML, and has
GEML-oriented announcements on its tape, has been sent over to work on the
West Anglia during the blockade?

tom

--
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets
of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a
whole galaxy of multi colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and
also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw
ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all this for the trip,
but once you get locked in a serious drug collection, the tendency is
to push it as far as you can. -- Hunter S. Thompson, 'Fear and loathing
in Las Vegas'

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007, asdf wrote:

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:09:19 +0000, Tom Anderson wrote:

I was just thinking that Hackney Central might be a good place to
terminate trains from the GEML, routing them via Stratford, while
Liverpool Street is closed. But of course, there are still works at
Shenfield that mean they can't even get to Stratford.

And it wouldn't really be a very good idea anyway.

Fenchurch Street would be a better idea (using the connection from
Stratford).

No, it'd be no better, because you still can't get past Shenfield! If that
wasn't out of play, then yes, it'd be better than stopping at Stratford,
or Hackney Central, if only marginally.

tom

--
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets
of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a
whole galaxy of multi colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and
also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw
ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all this for the trip,
but once you get locked in a serious drug collection, the tendency is
to push it as far as you can. -- Hunter S. Thompson, 'Fear and loathing
in Las Vegas'