It does... but it's far less prominent now. The trains don't have it
written on them any more and announcements etc. don't mention it.
Besides which, once the Thameslink work is all finished, the thameslink
route could mean trains to any number of destinations rather then the
fairly simple route it refers to at the moment.

All of which will pass through Farringdon, though. And vice versa, every
train which passes through Farringdon will be on the Thameslink route.

Makes no difference, the name "Thameslink" refers to Brighton / Sutton to
Bedford. Trains going to Peterborough have never been called Thameslink or
part of the Thameslink route, so still calling it Thameslink will be
confusing, especially since the operator won't be called Thameslink either.
Pasting over that sign was a very sensible thing to do.

Best Wishes,
LEWIS

On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, Lew 1 wrote:

It does... but it's far less prominent now. The trains don't have it
written on them any more and announcements etc. don't mention it.
Besides which, once the Thameslink work is all finished, the thameslink
route could mean trains to any number of destinations rather then the
fairly simple route it refers to at the moment.

All of which will pass through Farringdon, though. And vice versa, every
train which passes through Farringdon will be on the Thameslink route.

Makes no difference, the name "Thameslink" refers to Brighton / Sutton to
Bedford.

Er, what? That's what it refers to now, sure. When trains are running from
King's Lynn to Guildford or whatever, it'll refer to those too.

Trains going to Peterborough have never been called Thameslink or
part of the Thameslink route,

No, because they haven't been part of it. They are set to become part of
it.

so still calling it Thameslink will be confusing,

No, not calling it Thameslink when it's part of the same operation as
Brighton to Beford will be confusing.

especially since the operator won't be called Thameslink either.

True. And stupidly, NR doesn't seem at all keen on giving lines public
names distinct from their operators, which would be a continuing use for
the Thameslink name.

tom

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All of which will pass through Farringdon, though. And vice versa,
every
train which passes through Farringdon will be on the Thameslink route.

Makes no difference, the name "Thameslink" refers to Brighton / Sutton
to
Bedford.

Er, what? That's what it refers to now, sure. When trains are running from
King's Lynn to Guildford or whatever, it'll refer to those too.

I would argue that from the travelling public's point of view, it won't
refer to those services at all. Since the name is not advertised to the
general public much (if at all), and the Train Operating Company are called
Capital Connect, I suspect the new combined service will become known as
Capital Connect. The official name of the line in the middle of it all won't
be heavily used, and so shouldn't be used for station directional signage,
after all LU don't sign "West Coast Mainline" anywhere.

National Rail or First Capital Connect is perfectly sufficient for signage,
and as it happens, I prefer the former.

Best Wishes,
LEWIS

Lew 1 wrote:
All of which will pass through Farringdon, though. And vice
versa, every train which passes through Farringdon will be on
the Thameslink route.

Makes no difference, the name "Thameslink" refers to Brighton /
Sutton to Bedford.

Er, what? That's what it refers to now, sure. When trains are
running from King's Lynn to Guildford or whatever, it'll refer to
those too.

I would argue that from the travelling public's point of view, it
won't refer to those services at all. Since the name is not
advertised to the general public much (if at all), and the Train
Operating Company are called Capital Connect, I suspect the new
combined service will become known as Capital Connect. The official
name of the line in the middle of it all won't be heavily used, and
so shouldn't be used for station directional signage, after all LU
don't sign "West Coast Mainline" anywhere.

National Rail or First Capital Connect is perfectly sufficient for
signage, and as it happens, I prefer the former.

That's fine except where you need to distinguish between FCC services
that terminate in London and those that don't. For example, at King's
Cross St Pancras or (currently) Moorgate. In those cases, "Thameslink"
is a useful label for the through services. How else would you want
your line to be identified if you were bound for, say, Cricklewood and
needed to find the right platform having emerged from the Northern Line
at either KXSP or Moorgate?

Indeed, on the FCC site, it says "With only a short walk between King’s
Cross and St Pancras International, First Capital Connect customers
[arriving at King's Cross from Cambridge etc.] can not only access the
Eurostar terminal with ease, but can also reach other destinations on
the Thameslink route ...". (Though, if you follow the link to "Download
connections map", it leads to the old map with King's Cross Thameslink
on it!)

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