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Plus if the line gets built on the same scale as Crossrail, a station
at Victoria could easily have a western exit near Sloane Square.

There are three major issues with it being built Crossrail-style

Firstly, it will bypass major tube stations like piccadilly circus and
green park, and useful interchange points like essex road.

Secondly, it will skip most of the route, and almost all of the useful
"no alternative rail/tube" parts of the route, only really going from
clapham to kings cross, and using the mainlines elsewhere.

Thirdly, it will **** up the tube map atrociously, with stations, as
you mention, like sloane square, suddenly being part of victoria,
despite having the circle line running between them; its bad enough
with cannon street-(walk 100yrds via walbrook)-bank-monument-(via
circle line)-cannon street



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A small
team within Cross London Rail Links, the Transport for London company
charged with developing the east-west Crossrail 1 project, works
solely on the Crossrail 2 scheme

Why doesn't TfL do this; what's it got to do with "Cross London Rail
Links". Since when were tube extensions designed by separate companies
to LUL?
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Plus if the line gets built on the same scale as Crossrail, a station
at Victoria could easily have a western exit near Sloane Square.

There are three major issues with it being built Crossrail-style

Firstly, it will bypass major tube stations like piccadilly circus and
green park, and useful interchange points like essex road.

Secondly, it will skip most of the route, and almost all of the useful
"no alternative rail/tube" parts of the route, only really going from
clapham to kings cross, and using the mainlines elsewhere.

Thirdly, it will **** up the tube map atrociously, with stations, as
you mention, like sloane square, suddenly being part of victoria,
despite having the circle line running between them; its bad enough
with cannon street-(walk 100yrds via walbrook)-bank-monument-(via
circle line)-cannon street


You're not going to be happy with Crossrail 1 then, which is going to join
Farringdon - Barbican and Moorgate - Liverpool St...

Paul S


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On 28 Jan, 22:14, lonelytraveller
wrote:
Why doesn't TfL do this; what's it got to do with "Cross London Rail
Links". Since when were tube extensions designed by separate companies
to LUL?


It's not like it's a private company - it's half-owned by TfL and half-
owned by the DfT*. It'll transfer solely to TfL this summer. It's just
a legal structure and it doesn't really mean anything. Pretty much all
of TfL's activities are done through quasi separate companies (London
Undergrond Ltd, London Buses Ltd, etc), so it's not something that
needs explanation.

(* it actually appears to be owned by Transport Trading Ltd and SRA
Investment Company Ltd, who are/were TfL and the SRA's money handling
branches)

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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, lonelytraveller wrote:

A small team within Cross London Rail Links, the Transport for London
company charged with developing the east-west Crossrail 1 project,
works solely on the Crossrail 2 scheme


Why doesn't TfL do this; what's it got to do with "Cross London Rail
Links". Since when were tube extensions designed by separate companies
to LUL?


One of the big government reports (London East-West Study?) said that
Crossrail should take over the Chelsea-Hackney project, so they did. I
don't really know why; maybe they thought the Crossrail 1 works needed to
be done in a way that's conscious of the possibility of Crossrail 2.

tom

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...it will **** up the tube map atrociously, with stations, as
you mention, like sloane square, suddenly being part of victoria,
despite having the circle line running between them; its bad enough
with cannon street-(walk 100yrds via walbrook)-bank-monument-(via
circle line)-cannon street


You're not going to be happy with Crossrail 1 then, which is going to join
Farringdon - Barbican and Moorgate - Liverpool St...

No, I'm not very happy with it at all. I think it should go via hyde
park corner, charing cross, temple, holborn, and then past farringdon,
but use the sub surface lines from farringdon to moorgate.


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