"Tim Woodall" wrote in message
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Yes. You can take the fast train on PAYG. But if you do your outbound
journey after 7am and your return journey before 7pm then it's 12GBP/day
and a season ticket is cheaper if you are doing it every (working) day.


What if you are on a weekly ticket, say z1-4, and you have a little extra
money for extra-zonal travel?

"Neil Williams" wrote in message
...

If that is indeed the case, then can you take a fast train between Euston
and Watford Junction, rather than just be restricted to the Overground?

Yes (though not any Virgin trains which are not available to any
passengers at all southbound).

What about First ScotRail or London Midland?

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"Tim Woodall" wrote in message
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Yes. You can take the fast train on PAYG. But if you do your outbound
journey after 7am and your return journey before 7pm then it's
12GBP/day and a season ticket is cheaper if you are doing it every
(working) day.


What if you are on a weekly ticket, say z1-4, and you have a little
extra money for extra-zonal travel?



You need to check each case on its merits.

For Boundary Z4-Watford Junction your options are (these prices are from
Harrow and Wealdstone. The actual BZ4 prices may be different):

Pre pay - £ 2.50 peak single/£ 1.00 off peak, no railcard discount
Paper ticket - £ 3.00 single, £ 6.00 return, railcard discounts available
Paper ticket to Kings Langley - £ 4.30 Single/£ 4.40 Cheap Day Return/£
7.80 Standard return, railcard discounts available

Note that for some journeys the best option will be a railcard discounted
cheap day return to Kings Langley...

David

On 9 Feb, 23:06, David Jackman pleasereplytogroup wrote:
wrote o.uk:



"Tim Woodall" wrote in message
e.uk...

Yes. You can take the fast train on PAYG. But if you do your outbound
journey after 7am and your return journey before 7pm then it's
12GBP/day and a season ticket is cheaper if you are doing it every
(working) day.

What if you are on a weekly ticket, say z1-4, and you have a little
extra money for extra-zonal travel?

You need to check each case on its merits.

For Boundary Z4-Watford Junction your options are (these prices are from
Harrow and Wealdstone. The actual BZ4 prices may be different):

Pre pay - £ 2.50 peak single/£ 1.00 off peak, no railcard discount
Paper ticket - £ 3.00 single, £ 6.00 return, railcard discounts available
Paper ticket to Kings Langley - £ 4.30 Single/£ 4.40 Cheap Day Return/£
7.80 Standard return, railcard discounts available

Note that for some journeys the best option will be a railcard discounted
cheap day return to Kings Langley...

David

For some reason Watford North to London is £2532.00 All Zones.
(£3660.00 First). As this ticket journey involves a change at Watford
Junction, using the fast trains would be fine anyway.

Barry Doe in Rail pointed out some anomalies with Oyster Pay and Go
from Watford Junction.
Oyster charges from the moment you touch in. I can't recall the exact
peak/off peak times so these are examples: if you touch in at 6.55am
(off peak), you'll be charged an off peak fare and travel after 7am,
on the other hand, if you touch in at 6.55PM (peak) and travel after
7.00PM (off peak) you'll be charged the peak fare.

In other words, calculating how much Oyster P&G will be tricky...!

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:21:50 GMT, wrote:

What about First ScotRail or London Midland?

Yes to LM. The ScotRail sleepers are, like the VTs, pick up
(northbound)/set down (southbound) only, and of course have compulsory
reservations anyway.

Neil

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On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 01:07:36 -0800 (PST),
Railist wrote:

It's 2268 (3404 1st) Watford Junction to London Euston
2604 (3768 1st) including Z1-6

For some reason Watford North to London is £2532.00 All Zones.
(£3660.00 First). As this ticket journey involves a change at Watford
Junction, using the fast trains would be fine anyway.

Weird. Presumably you were not be able to use this ticket on the slow
train stations outside of Z6. Or maybe you can't use it to enter/exit at
Watford Junction. Don't know what the situation would be now there's
zones 7,8 and 9.

Barry Doe in Rail pointed out some anomalies with Oyster Pay and Go
from Watford Junction.
Oyster charges from the moment you touch in. I can't recall the exact
peak/off peak times so these are examples: if you touch in at 6.55am
(off peak), you'll be charged an off peak fare and travel after 7am,
on the other hand, if you touch in at 6.55PM (peak) and travel after
7.00PM (off peak) you'll be charged the peak fare.

In other words, calculating how much Oyster P&G will be tricky...!

I don't think it's all that tricky. I typically touch in about 06:52 and
catch the 07:01 train. I typically don't catch the 19:04 train because
it's short and crowded, but on the one occasion I did catch this train I
waited outside the barriers until 19:00 (I got there when the clock was
showing 18:58).

Tim.

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On 23 Feb, 17:25, Tim Woodall wrote:
Weird. Presumably you were not be able to use this ticket on the slow
train stations outside of Z6. Or maybe you can't use it to enter/exit at
Watford Junction. Don't know what the situation would be now there's
zones 7,8 and 9.

Nope. A point to point rail season ticket is good for any portion of
any route between the two points.

U

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