Joe Patrick wrote:

Just Featured a man complaining about the noise on the North Circular, a
woman complaining about trams and a family whos garden got sucked in a hole
by the CTRL works. CTRL won and featured Howard who was put infront of a
video clip putting the award in a tunnel.

Never understood this kind of wingeing ****e.


I mean, you _know_ if you buy a house on the North Circular or a railway
line that it's going to be noisy. And I'm sure the price paid also
reflected this.

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"SteveH" wrote in message . ..
Joe Patrick wrote:

Just Featured a man complaining about the noise on the North Circular, a
woman complaining about trams and a family whos garden got sucked in a hole
by the CTRL works. CTRL won and featured Howard who was put infront of a
video clip putting the award in a tunnel.

Never understood this kind of wingeing ****e.


I mean, you _know_ if you buy a house on the North Circular or a railway
line that it's going to be noisy. And I'm sure the price paid also
reflected this.

At the time the chap moved into the house by the North Circular, 41 years ago, it was just a regular street, so it's something that
has happened while he's been living there. It's true about the woman who lived next to Metrolink, however, as it emerged during the
"judging" that she knew full well the line was there when she moved - presumably the property price would reflect this. If you know
what's there when you move somewhere, you've got no right to whinge about it - my parents have lived next to the ECML for 35 years
and I've never once heard them complain about the traffic, as they were perfectly happy with it when they decided to buy the house.

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"Rich Mackin" wrote in message
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At the time the chap moved into the house by the North Circular, 41 years
ago, it was just a regular street

The North Circular has not been a "Regular Street" for many years and
certainly was not 41 years ago. You are talking about 1962 here. The M1 had
been opened from Watford to Crick, with the M10 spur to St Albans. The level
of traffic may not have been today's, but the road was a major traffic
artery, and was the only realistic option to going through Central London
(Which could often be quicker).
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:35:20 +0100, "Rich Mackin"
wrote:

"SteveH" wrote in message . ..
Joe Patrick wrote:

Just Featured a man complaining about the noise on the North Circular, a
woman complaining about trams and a family whos garden got sucked in a hole
by the CTRL works. CTRL won and featured Howard who was put infront of a
video clip putting the award in a tunnel.

Never understood this kind of wingeing ****e.


I mean, you _know_ if you buy a house on the North Circular or a railway
line that it's going to be noisy. And I'm sure the price paid also
reflected this.

At the time the chap moved into the house by the North Circular,
41 years ago, it was just a regular street, so it's something that
has happened while he's been living there.

My parents went to visit relatives who lived on " *The* North Circular
*Road " before the war. It's obvious a road given a "Proper Name" like
that, as opposed to "Green Lane", say, was always destined to be a
significant traffic artery, like "The Great North Road", or "The
Western Avenue".

I used the N.C.R. to get to work between Harrow Rd. and Muswell Hill
in 1969 and FWIR is not significantly different now apart from some
junction improvements squeezed in.

DG

In article , derek
writes
I used the N.C.R. to get to work between Harrow Rd. and Muswell Hill
in 1969 and FWIR is not significantly different now apart from some
junction improvements squeezed in.

The bit from the M4 to the A1 is pretty much the same (including a
stretch that's still single carriageway!), although there are some
significant widenings on the eastern sections.

Do we know where the complainant lives?
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:26:15 -0400, Roland Perry wrote:
Do we know where the complainant lives?

From the small bit I saw I would say about he
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap...186898&A=Y&Z=1

David

In article , David Walters
writes
Do we know where the complainant lives?

From the small bit I saw I would say about he
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap...186898&A=Y&Z=1

Ha! Right by Staples Corner, which has been an infamous bottleneck since
time began (and when the Staples in question was a furniture store, not
an office equipment superstore).
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window a bit, type a bit, stare out of the window a bit. Networked computers
make these two activities converge, because now the thing you type on and the
window you stare out of are the same thing" - Douglas Adams 28/1/99.

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In article , David Walters
writes
Do we know where the complainant lives?

From the small bit I saw I would say about he
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap...186898&A=Y&Z=1

Ha! Right by Staples Corner, which has been an infamous bottleneck since
time began (and when the Staples in question was a furniture store, not
an office equipment superstore).
--

Do you know, I always wondered where the name of Staples Corner came from, I
felt it couldn't be after the office equipment/stationery company, in spite
of their presence.

Andrew

David Walters wrote:

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:26:15 -0400, Roland Perry wrote:
Do we know where the complainant lives?

From the small bit I saw I would say about he
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap...186898&A=Y&Z=1

Which shows a position not too far from Brent Terrace, which was
discussed a couple of weeks ago on uk.railway.
IIRC there was a link to a map from pre-1920 in that thread, which
showed the NC Road,whcih had just been built.
When it was widened to the current 6 lanes, i have no idea,but I'm sure
it was pre 1980.
Alan.
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(SteveH) wrote the following in:


Joe Patrick wrote:

Just Featured a man complaining about the noise on the North
Circular, a woman complaining about trams and a family whos
garden got sucked in a hole by the CTRL works. CTRL won and
featured Howard who was put infront of a video clip putting the
award in a tunnel.

Never understood this kind of wingeing ****e.


I mean, you _know_ if you buy a house on the North Circular or a
railway line that it's going to be noisy. And I'm sure the price
paid also reflected this.

My thoughts exactly, and I have similar thoughts about people who buy
houses under the Heathrow flightpath and then complain they get planes
flying overhead. Although I think it is very different for the man
living by the North Circular (which just so happens to be my email
address) as in this case he'd bought the house when it was by a two
lane single carriageway.

It was also different for the people affected by the Channel Tunnel
Rail Link. The tunnel passed underneath their house and caused a
massive hole the size of a house to appear in their back gardens. Not
only did this ruin their gardens and put lives at risk (luckily no one
was hurt, but if someone had been in their garden at the time then
they'd have been in serious trouble) but it also caused structural
damage to their houses. They had no reason to expect this would happen
when they bought their houses and even if they'd known about the rail
link, they still couldn't have expected that sort of thing to happen.

I had no sympathy whatsoever for the woman living by the tram line
though. She'd known about it when she bought it and gave a weak excuse
along the lines of "I liked the garden and the size, and the trams have
got louder since I bought the house". If you're worried about noise,
don't buy a house next to a tram line! Pretty simple, I'd have thought.

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